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    Conference Call Notes & Playback Information

    Post by Admin on Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:37 pm

    This post post contains conference call notes from Frank & Tony & Other Dinar Gurus
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    Frank26 IQD Conference Call TUESDAY NIGHT 9/18/13

    Post by Admin on Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:38 pm

    Family: Here are the CC notes from tonight; blessings to all!

    “Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?” John 11:25 – 26 KJV

    Frank26 IQD Conference Call after Bible Study
    Tuesday, September 17, 2013

    IQD update
    • Frank began with expressing thanks to Dame who has stepped down as an Admin as of today; Frank expressed gratitude for the tremendous amount of work she has done over the last 3 years
    • Frank also expressed thanks to Zeke who is still a Staff member but posted for the last time last month.
    • There have been several articles about international banks coming into Iraq – banks from all around the world; Zerb posted on this as well; the SWIFT codes (allowing banks to communicate with each other) have been transmitted and they are ready; why would they do this for valueless currency which cannot be traded internationally?? They would not
    • Frank read an email from a forum member sharing a personal experience
    • Frank then gave I Team’s report: They were in Israel all of last month, their mission is to secure and protect; Frank told us to forget Syria, it’s taken care of and of no impact to our investment; on Sunday I Team moved back to Baghdad, and were ordered to wait; Frank’s opinion is that is has something to do with Talibani; today Frank received a report that I Team was told to stand down
    • Najafe wants to talk tomorrow, then we have the National Meeting, and the UN General Assembly so the timing is very interesting
    • The question remains, is I Team to protect Talibani, or to guard his body (if he is deceased??); however, I Team has been told to stand down until Sept 20, which is Friday – the first day of the week; does this affect our investment? But they want to talk now – Najafe, National Meeting and UN; I Team was moved, so the stand down order is interesting and it is not known at this moment exactly what it means
    • Frank returned to a file he opened up about a month ago; Frank asked us to pay attention to oil and gas prices, precious metals, and the value of the dollar
    • In Q1, USD was $0.71 and gold at $1800-1900; when the rumor came out that the rate was in the budget, the value of the US$ went up, but gold stayed the same; now, the USD is around $0.81 and gold is down; why? Countries are moving their gold around, there have been massive movements; the relationship of the USD and gold is unbalanced; a lot of gold has been sold by banks and it has been bought up – by whom? Iraq for one; but they have plenty of gold, so why? China bought as much gold as possible; Asian countries have bought a mountain of gold; the IMF bought gold
    • Silver has not changed much
    • Gold is around $1200 this week, it’s been flipping between $1200 - $1400; look for patterns; notice that no one flinched with the NASDAQ and NYSE went down 3 times
    • Kuwait is getting a new currency in October, and the USA is also getting a new currency in October – too many things are lining up, too many things are overlapping
    • Walkingstick post 23 – pay attention to Dr S and what he, the UN and IMF are doing; articles on the budget for 2014: state 812 Trillion and 263 Billion – what do we see??? Two sets of books with 2 completely different numbers
    • Frank then played Delta’s report: Delta said hello to everyone, still looking at September as a pretty big month, there is a 5 year plan that is huge for Iraq; there was a big celebration at a major hotel with very high level officials, M is very busy signing documents, Iraqia TV is saying the currency has to be recognized internationally, Delta still looks for the IN-country rate to come out at $0.86 and stay there a couple of years; the National Meeting is scheduled for Thursday, and he is looking for contracts to be signed
    • Frank will be on a webinar tomorrow for the Tesla product; a post will be made with the details so that anyone who wants to join can attend; Frank encourages us learn about it and study it
    • In Frank’s opinion, he does not except the rate to be announced tomorrow by Najafe, his opinion is that it’s probably the status of the banks and their readiness
    • Frank ended the call with prayer, and Andy lifted the prayer with the shofar horn blast
    • Frank thanked everyone who has been voting for Ava on FB; there is a contest on FB by a Hawaiian electric company; the prize for most votes are free solar panels to help with utility costs; Frank and Jan’s friends are entered in this contest, they have a disabled daughter, and her medical equipment drives their electric bills to nearly $900 per month; this family would greatly benefit from the solar panels; we’d like to ask your help to vote at the link below; you do not need to be a member of FB to vote; voting continues through Sept 30, when the contest ends: https://www.facebook.com/EnphaseEnergy?sk=app_403834839671843&app_data=view-vote%2Cfor-1225952
    • Frank asks that we vote as many times per day as we want and as we can
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    Elder Bruce R McConkie AMEN, AMEN and AMEN!
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    TONY, TNT CC NOTES & REPLAY, 9/18/13

    Post by Admin on Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:39 pm

    TONY, TNT CC NOTES & REPLAY, 9/18/13
    Good morning, TNT. We're getting started here a little late simply because I was getting a lot of emails, texts, etc. Seems there are 2-3 threads in the Forum regarding Mtn Goat's posts. Here's my thing and it makes sense to me: I've been getting calls to the Mods asking "is it Mtn Goat, is it not Mtn Goat, etc."

    The bigger pic isn't who the person is but is the information accurate? Doesn't matter whether they can spell or not, if they're in the mountains or on the beach. I don't care. I just want to know if the info is correct. I don't understand the whole argument. I've said we're not going to let 10-15 people ruin it for 15,000 people. We'll delete everyone of them and we'll move on. All of these personal attacks is not what TNTDinar is about. It's not why we came over here. This is a team working together, finding the best info we can.

    It's about the information, not about you, me or anybody else. Discuss if you believe the content of the information, not if somebody can spell or not. If you give a little more respect, you'll get more respect.

    Nobody's account has been hacked. All of the chat rooms being closed is because they're all on the same server. There is no gov't intervention. If they wanted us all shut down this call wouldn't be going on. The servers are down due to a power outage.

    The good info is that everything is still on track. Today is the day when things could possibly happen. Yes, the bank people did go in yesterday and early this morning. Bank people who were told if it didn't happen Monday it wouldn't happen until Oct. Well those people were called in yesterday and today. They're trying to push to get it done by Friday.

    The rates are still over $23 and $3 as of this morning. The system is still working and things could happen anytime between this afternoon and Friday. An announcement is projected. That's the timeframe we're being given. Bad guys are still being picked up.

    I'm waiting for confirmation that there may be a final resolution to the tax rate. Regardless, the majority of you will be audited next year. They brought on 50,000 new tax auditors just to do audits. When you're thinking of your strategies, trusts, LLC's, etc., you better know how those things work. And you need to be involved in those for the next 5 years. If you fail to be involved you can be audited and fined for back taxes plus penalties. You need to hire pros to handle your tax situation. Make sure you keep up with your monthly reports, filings, etc. You need to be prepared for the long term.

    You need to know what's going on - more than just getting a trust, LLC, etc. so it won't look like you're just avoiding taxes.

    All of our people are still there. As of this morning everybody is still at the banks. Not much has changed since Monday.


    "LIVE" Q&A STARTING NOW (C = Caller / T = Tony)

    C - Bernanke is supposed to have a news conference today followed by the POTUS, Kerry, and Jack Lew. Related to the RV?
    T - We read the POTUS was supposed to have speeches everyday, but not seeing it. Then we see he's making another speech today. This morning when the POTUS was speaking to the business leaders he said "our deficit has been cut in half since he's been in office." He said that yesterday as well. Not sure where he's getting that from.

    C - Iraqi Parliament still going on 5-day break tomorrow? If so, we were told the RV would have to occur first.
    T - So far they are still scheduled to start their break tomorrow. Everyday, including today, they're putting their financial people on TV saying their currency must go international. It has to be declared international, then the rates change and the process is completed. That's what they're expecting.

    C - How does the debt ceiling debate tie into the RV?
    T - I'm hoping from the info we're seeing that this journey is over this week. It's supposed to end this week. The gov't runs out of money on Oct. 1. The POTUS said he didn't want the debt ceiling as part of the debate and the Repubs want Obamacare part of the debate. Are they all going to play that game? I can see where the RV and GCR can be part of that, but I don't think it will get that far. I'm hoping this parts gets completed before they make an announcement about Syria on Friday. That's why everybody is pushing for this to be done.

    C - Have you personally seen the Oct 2 memo or just heard about it (related to the public RV of currency)?
    T - I've been told by people who are in the training classes who have seen it. They've already been trained and supposedly they're receiving additional training. More new people have been brought in for training.

    C - With all the news, meetings, etc. Mtn. Goat saying it won't happen until Oct and that it's in Iraq's hands, is very confusing.
    T - They (Iraq) are just as eager to get this done as we are. They wanted to come out with an announcement today (at the end of their national meeting) and if they were in charge it would be done.

    C - So who is really holding it up?

    T - It's not Iraq, it's not the banking system because that's working. Who is concerned about the ME right now? It's either us or the IMF. There has been an agreement about what military action can or cannot take place via the UN and how that affects the agreement on Friday. There are 2 people that can do this: the IMF which will load the lower rates and the UST which will load the higher rates. They're still using what's happening in the ME as a bargaining chip. They set a date and before that date comes, something new happens. So they're hoping it happens before Friday and before something else happens. Syria, the GCR, etc. are 2 separate issues - but is it really?


    C - On a scale of 1-10, how confident are you it will happen this week, this month or this year?
    T - I am more confident it will happen this year, absolutely, before the new year. Before the end of the month, very confident. I feel good about today. We are more likely to see it by Friday than by the end of the year. JL is saying all the things we want to hear but we still don't see the RV. At some point people will want to see the numbers to back up what they're saying.

    C - So on a scale of 1-10, you'd say 7 for this week,9 for this month and 10 for this year?
    T - yes, good numbers.

    C - Do you know anything about what people in the UK will do for CE?
    T - Have no idea. We think DinarTrade has an office there. You should contact them. DinarUK is also in London.

    Q&A BEGINNING NOW:

    Q - if the RV doesn't happen this week, is there a back wall?
    A - no there is no back wall.

    Q - can you describe the money flow thru the WF private placement CE?
    A - Don't know. They don't give out those details. The UST is supposed to get 11% for the deal, and another 2% to the person who set it up. If it came out at $28 (based on the contract I received), it would net at $18 to you.

    Q - Your thought about Mtn Goat's posts?
    A - When I say I like her posts, it doesn't mean I necessarily agree with everything she posts. I like her details, things I cannot post. We're not 100% in agreement. I've only heard from 2 people that thought it wouldn't go until October. We're not waiting on laws, system, codes, etc. It's working and we're only waiting for someone to authorize it to go. Explain to me why it can't happen before Oct. 15 if you're going to put that out there. If you're not going to substantiate it don't put it out there. I'm not saying they're wrong, but it's just your opinion. Tell me why if you know it's not going to happen until January. What's the rationalization and maybe we can all understand it? You may have a piece of the puzzle I'm missing. If you share what you know and why you think it's that way, we can all put the puzzle together. It's not about gurus.

    Q - why do some gurus only see the lower rates if they have the same access as you?
    A - obviously they don't have the same access. I'm seeing those rates at every level and they all change at the same time.

    Q - Is the UST paying for all these "dry runs"?
    A - Yes.

    Q - Question about taxes, WF CE, etc. (Tony ran about 4 questions together).
    A - I don't think the banks will handle the taxes. They haven't been trained to do so. How can they take 11% out of your money? I did hear 9.7% and a new form given to the banks and then given to you to file by yourself - UNCONFIRMED. But that makes more sense than the 11%.

    Q - do we need to put long term Capital Gains currency exchange in a separate account?
    A - All I know is we're been told to keep the IQD and VND in separate accounts.

    Q - Can we put the 50% held back for taxes in an interest-bearing account to make money while we wait on the tax situation to resolve?
    A - Yes, why not make money on those funds while you wait.

    T - keep in mind that they are trying to rush you into making a mistake. Anytime somebody gives you a deadline, there's a reason for that. Be careful.

    Q - what are the ceiling rates?
    T - This morning the VND was at $4 and the IQD at $23. I can't give you the ceiling rates. If I do, 2 things will happen: they'll lower it and lesson the days. And you don't want me to do that.

    Q - do you advise we CE the IDR first, then the IQD and VND?
    A - it depends on how much of any currency you have will determine the deals you can negotiate. With most people the IQD and VND will be negotiable.

    Q - I've run out of answers to members of our church who think it's a scam. What can I say to them?
    A - Tell them to have faith. Research. Tell them to check out articles and archives for more info to alleviate their fears.

    Q - Is Tony using a bank?
    A - I have appointments at DinarBanker and banks. I will negotiate the highest rates, perks, etc to get the highest of everything I can out there. I'm not looking at banks that don't do IPOs.

    Q - do you have travel reservations made this week?
    A - I looked at private planes yesterday. It's $60,000 for private jet travel.

    TONY - The info is very simple: we're waiting on it. The bank people are there now. Everybody's looking for it today thru Friday. Over in Iraq it's being announced that the last piece of the process is for the IQD to go international. Then it's all over. We're all waiting on one single thing to happen.

    If anything else happens we'll do a blast-out. It's a super fantastic day and I'm waiting for it. I'm sure I'll get info after this call and I will share it if it's important.
    : END OF CALL.


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    Frank26 IQD Conference Call 9/1/7/13

    Post by Admin on Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:42 pm

    Family: Here are the CC notes from tonight; wishing you a peaceful night and a blessed and joyful day ahead!

    “This is the day which the LORD hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it.” Psalms 118:24 KJV


    Frank26 IQD Conference Call after Investment Night
    Monday, September 16, 2013
    IQD update
    • There is a flood of information to review tonight
    • There will be a thread created on the website to inform KTFA members where to go if the webhost ever goes down again; when the thread is posted, please take down the information and keep it stored for future reference; there will be 2 “life boats,” and one is unitednn.com
    • Please continue voting on FB for Ava and her family in Hawaii in the contest to win the solar panels to aid with their electric bills (nearly $900 per month); voting continues through Sept 30
    • The last time we met, Frank told us to watch Sept 13 – 15, and Sept 16 – 18; the IMF met over this weekend (9/13 – 15) and the UN General Assembly is meeting
    • Sept 13 – 15 the Governors of the IMF met, and today we saw the articles about it; watch for an announcement from Sept 16 – 18 about the CBI
    • Talibani has been protected from
    • Last week, Frank told us that I Team had just left Israel; Frank also repeatedly told us that as much as others want to make Syria an issue, it is not an issue, it’s about another agenda; it does not interfere with or impact our investment, please let it go; please do not continue to raise this issue on the forum
    • O’s actions with regard to Syria have weakened our international status, it weakens our economy, Russia has taken credit for the work the USA has done, and now Russia has taken control of the WMD’s rather than the USA; in response to this mess, the Emir of Kuwait came to the USA over the weekend to counsel O and tell him to stop interfering
    • I Team has returned to Baghdad, and their new orders are to protect T; now it’s T-time; T is loved in Iraq; he has been hidden and protected over this past year; why would T be moved to the GZ if there is so much risk? For an announcement? Why risk his health and safety that has been so carefully protected over the past year unless there is something of great importance
    • HCL and Erbil are completed, implementation would be a major announcement; the 5-year budget plan which is up and running is also a great announcement; there are many great things ready for announcement, and any one of these things could be the announcement, and it’s also possible that the RV will be announced
    • Take note of the GOI call for the National Meeting and it’s coincidental with the UN General Assembly meeting
    • Global currency movement is taking place, and Jack Lew has been talking; there are many reasons to look for announcements over the next couple of days
    • Notice that the NYSE/NASDAQ was down again – they were down twice already, and it happened again yesterday; most of the world currencies run through NASDAQ; they have been down 3 times in past 30 days, and yet it’s not a news issue, it’s been ignored – the financial capital of the world goes down 3 times and nothing is said about it? It’s the equivalent of 3 eclipses in a row and no one speaks of it; this is important to analyze and understand; also ponder why Turkey wants to buy oil from Iraq and swap local currencies straight up – either Turkey is really stupid or really brilliant; study it
    • The WTO has always said that when Iraq lifts the 3 zeros, there are welcome to join; today, the WTO asked Iraq to join because they have fulfilled all the requirements
    • But we haven’t seen anything yet, how can the WTO make this invitation? M is busy signing everything and trying to metamorphose again
    • A lot of ME countries are coming in and making big business deals in Iraq – Saddam has been gone for 10 years and no one wanted anything to do with Iraq, and now they are beating the door down to get in – why?? Iraq’s banks are poised to walk into international status
    • I Team has been waiting since last Wednesday for new orders, and they received them this weekend, to be fulfilled immediately; Frank does not know where I Team is, but in his opinion, Frank believes they are with T right now, and they are in the GZ, but that is only Frank’s opinion; Frank’s opinion is that T is not dead
    • Frank had a call from Delta; Delta has not changed his opinion, he is still feeling good about Sept; Delta’s intel is still consistent, the IN-country rate in Iraq is still expected to be $0.86 - $1.16 for several years with a managed increase IN-country; there is a National Meeting scheduled for Sept 19 and there is a tremendous amount of activity going on behind the scene, international investors are pouring in to Iraq, M is signing anything and everything put in front of him, the MoF are very busy and very covert - many meetings occurring in hotels to keep quiet; again, the WTO issued the entry invitation
    • Again, NASDAQ is extremely important, the 3rd time down – twice for download, 3rd time for testing…..

    Eagle1 came on the call at this point
    • Frank can verify that there are groups that are buying very large amounts of dinar right now – into the multiple Billions – why would people with money who know how to make money be running to buy dinar like it’s running out?
    • Eagle1 had three separate sources confirming that things were moving over this weekend, and E1 just had a text from a source at the UST that they are trying to accomplish the global currency reset this week
    • Najafe holding a National Meeting on Thursday, Sept 19, and Frank’s opinion is that T is in Baghdad for an announcement
    • Eagle1 had a call from WF source and for the first time, there is recognition of the global currency reset and the WF employees are being told of the new USD roll-out in October
    • Frank then had a ‘BLUE COUCH’ interview about Hillary’s “freedom” medal that Jeb Bush awarded; this is all speculation, opinion, imagination: Hillary made a large donation to a charity; where did the money come from? She has cashed in and made a large contribution to secure the support for a political bid
    • Frank also brought up that the Kurds have announced a 3-day holiday for this coming weekend – very interesting
    • Watch for an announcement either from the UN or the National Meeting, there are many things that announcement could be about with the RV being one of the possibilities, but no one knows what will be announced, there is no date!

    Bluestar came on the call at this point
    • He is looking for a major announcement this week about US financial structure, monetary policy – interesting that it overlays with Iraqi National Meeting, and UN General Assembly
    • Frank reviewed the article on the forum today released by the CBI with Dr S photo – he has been orchestrating the monetary reform from behind the scenes, he will never return to the CBI, but he’s seeing through the reform
    • Frank also believes that evidence has been and is being collected against M, and that the deal for his removal has been made; Bluestar agrees that a succession plan is likely in place
    • Frank also believes that militarily we will not leave Iraq, in fact he thinks we will expand bases there
    • Bluestar believes, in his opinion, we will not hear so much about the “global currency reset” but we will hear calls for a new global monetary policy, for international currency reform
    • Frank believes we will not see the NASDAQ go down again – it’s been downloaded and tested; done!
    • Frank ended the call with singing Amazing Grace, and Andy gave the shofar blast
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    TONY, TNTDINAR CC NOTES & REPLAY, 9-16-2013

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    TONY, TNTDINAR CC NOTES & REPLAY, 9-16-2013

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    THIS IS TNT DINAR'S Call Notes for Monday, SEPTEMBER 16, 2013 at 1pm EST and I apologize for anything missing

    Always keep in mind, that this is what I heard and transcribed. It's Tony's info and opinion - based on what he's received via sources in the Dinar community and the World.

    Feel free to always verify what you hear, and do your own due diligence.

    Thank you for being a part of TNT DINAR.

    Have a great day! Smile Montana
    Good Morning TNT Dinar…HOW YOU GUYS DOING?

    AS RAY REFERRED TO BOARD IS AT CAPACITY

    AS FAR AS HD CONF. CALL IS CONCERNED

    THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD US A 10 K LINE

    BUT IT TOOK OVER A MONTH FOR THE 5K LINE

    DOING THE BEST WE CAN…GOT THE BLOG TALK

    WANT TO START THE DAY TELLING YOU I HAD A GREAT WEEKEND

    I WAS RELAXED - ENJOYING MYSELF

    KNEW NOTHING WAS GOING TO HAPPEN UNTIL TODAY

    MONDAY THE 16TH OF SEPT. ITS 10 AM PST

    I DO HAVE SOME REALLY GOOD NEWS BUT I WANT TO CLEAR UP THE WEEKEND

    AS USUAL…IT COMES DOWN TO THAT

    WE ARE AWARE OF WHATS GOING ON ON THE BOARDS

    AND THAT PPL COME OVER FROM THE OTHER SITES

    REMOVING THEM SLOWLY

    AND SURELY AND BUILDING OUR LIST OF PPL THAT WE DON'T WANT HERE

    AFTERWARDS

    LOST THE RADIO

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    I WOULD IMMEDIATELY LET YOU KNOW THAT

    LOST THE RADIO AGAIN

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    WHAT DID I HEAR THOUGH MOUNTAIN GOAT DID A GOOD POST THIS MORNING. IT WAS A GOOD POST..BUT SOME OF THE INFO IS A LITTLE BEHIND, BUT IT IS THE HISTORY OF THIS AND EXPLAINS IT. I THINK WE ARE A LITTLE FURTHER IN THE PROCESS…I KNOW WE ARE AND EVEN THOUGH SHE SAID 75% OF THE BALANCE IS OUT THERE.

    I KNOW IT….I KNOW THEY ARE DOING 3.44 ON SOME CARDS…AND 1.18 AND SOME LOWER DENOMS ARE ISSUED OUT. BUT AS I TOLD YOU THEY ARE CONCERNED THAT IF THEY SENT IT HERE AND WENT ON THE INTERNET AND THEN SOMEONE GOT IN TROUBLE

    GOT A CALL FROM SOMEONE OR MESSAGE…TALKED TO THE GUY. HIS FRIEND WAS THE GUY THAT DELIVERED THE LD'S TO IRAQ TWO YEARS AGO. I WANTED HIM ON THE CALL. 2 YEARS AGO, ONE OF MY 3 LETTER GUYS GAVE ME THE FLIGHT, THE TAIL NUMBER AND THE ARRIVAL TIME….TOLD YOU THE TIME, THEN WE GOT THE NUMBER OF BUNDLES AND THE KNEW THEY WERE DRAWING IN THE 3 ZERO NOTES. TOLD YOU THAT ON THE OTHER SITE. SOMEONE DISPUTED IT... BUT WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS ALREADY. GONE THRU THE MERCHANTS - DOING THEIR DEPOSITS AND GOT THEM BACK, WAS PREPARED FOR THAT IN APRIL

    THE WHOLE STORY TOLD AGAIN. WHEN PORTIONS OF IT WERE ACCOMPLISHED. 2 YEARS AGO I WAS GOING TO TELL YOU SOMETHING…THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM AND IT WAS GOING TO BE A TRANSITIONAL CURRENCY. OUR COUNTRY IS THE TRANSITIONAL CURRENCY. WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR HAND IS A TRANSITION CURRENCY. WHAT DO YOU MEAN? GOING TO COME OUT WITH NEW NOTES? IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A WHOLE LOT OF DIFF. STORIES OUT THERE, TOUCHED ON IT FOR A WEEK OR TWO.

    MOUNTAIN GOAT BROUGHT IT UP TODAY AND THAT IS ALWAYS BEEN AROUND FOR YEARS AND WHEN THE IQD WAS BROUGHT IN, THEN THE IQD AND THE LD'S BEING THE NEW CURRENCY. WE'LL STILL BE PAID ON OUR CURRENCY. IF YOU DEPOSIT ELECTRONICALLY DON'T HAVE TO WORRY. THE RATE WAS SET….THEIR RATE WONT' BE THE SAME AS OUR RATE. THEY'LL HAVE 2 SEP. RATES….THE IN COUNTRY RATE

    AND THE CRAZY REASONS THAT WE HEAR. ALL IT TAKES IS ONE SIGNATURE ON A PIECE OF PAPER, NOT BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING TO MUCH. WHY WOULD IT BE THE PROBLEM? WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE AN RV TODAY. KNOW HOW I KNOW?....BECAUSE EVERYONE WAS TOLD NOT ONE BANK PERSON IS WHERE THEY NEED TO BE, NOT ONE TELLER, NOT ONE CALL CENTER.

    SO IT'S NOT TODAY. WERE WE TOLD THIS WEEK….YES, WE HAVE. THIS IS A VERY GOOD TIME FOR SPECIFIC REASONS. IT DIDN'T HAPPEN TODAY FOR A SPECIFIC REASON. IT WILL HAPPEN LATER ON FOR A SPECIFIC REASON. THAT'S THE PLAN, TRYING TO CATCH BAD GUYS.
    THE 30 DAY PERIOD OF TIME IS STILL ON THE TABLE. WE ARE STILL RIGHT THERE…I LIKE THE INFO WE ARE SEEING.

    AS OF LAST THURSDAY IRAQ WAS GIVEN TO MAKE THE ANNOUNCEMENT AGAIN THAT THEY ARE RV-ING THEIR CURRENCY….AND THEY ARE STILL SAYING IN A FEW DAYS. IF YOU COULD TELL ME WHATS ON THE TV…..I'LL GIVE IT TO EVERYONE ON THE CALL. SHOULD BE HAPPY…EVERYTHING IS A GREEN LIGHT

    ITS A TIMING THING….PROCEDURAL THING….GET EVERYONE READY. IN ALL HONESTY IT WON'T START UNTIL TOMORROW. EVERYTHING IS FLOWING….EVERYTHING IS GOOD, NOT CONCERNED TO GIVE YOU THE INFO. IF THEY DIDN'T WANT ME TO THEY COULD CUT IT OFF. THEY'D JUST PICK UP THE PH AND SAY IS SHUT UP. THE BAD THING IS THAT THERE ARE PPL THAT LOST THEIR DINAR AND PPL THAT WILL LOSE THEIR DINAR…AND THERE IS A LIST. DON'T MIND TELLING YOU THIS GOT A CALL FROM A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE, OKIE AND 2 SENATORS. THEY TOLD US ABOUT THE BLACK LIST THEN AND TOLD US 2 YEARS AGO THAT THEY MADE A BLACK LIST AND THEY HELPED CATCH PPL BACK THEN AND KNEW IT AND KNEW IT WAS COMING. SOME OF MY OTHER 3 LETTER GUYS TOLD ME ABOUT IT, HOMELAND WAS WATCHING IT.

    BUY YOUR DINAR FROM THE RIGHT PPL OR YOU WILL BE AT RISK LOSING IT. SO WE WENT FROM BAD TO GOOD AND PUT THIS OUT THERE. HOPE ITS THE LAST TIME I HAVE TO TALK ABOUT. HOPEFULLY THE STUFF WE HEAR ABOUT THIS WEEK IS TRUE. IF I SAID TO MUCH, SEND ME A TEXT AND LET ME KNOW - EVEN THOUGH I SAID IT AND THEN I'LL LAY OFF IT.

    ***************Q & A*************

    c- the 10th and 16th are gone... is the 26th still in play

    t- absolutely

    c- rates the same?

    t- over 20 and over 3

    c- mom and pops, that have chains, that aren't the big four

    t- they've gone to small rural banks

    t- so you don't have to travel 3, 4 hours away

    t- so it can be accomplished in 30 days

    c- the big 4 are Chase

    t- Chase, Citigroup, WF and BofA that I know are involved

    c- have a super fantastic day

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    c- as far as Mtn. Goats post, the essence is we hold onto our dinar, and keep listening to the calls and go to the bank

    - is that in a nutshell

    t- you got it, your money is good, we'll keep talking and this week - could be the week - its been earmarked

    c- sounds like a super bowl party in the happening

    t- lol

    PAM- JUST BEFORE THE CALLER, YOU MENTIONED IF YOU DON'T BUY DINAR FROM THE RIGHT PPL, QUESTIONS.... WHO ARE THE WRONG PPL???

    Clarify

    T- NOT TALKING ABOUT THE DEALERS

    T- UNFORTUNATELY GUYS, COUPLE THINGS HAVE HAPPENED, PROBABLY SHOULDN'T HAVE BROUGHT THAT UP, PPL HAVE BEEN SENDING DINAR THAT SHOULDN'T, SUBCONTRACTORS, AND YOU SAW THE GUYS IN OHIO AND OTHER ONES, EVEN SMALLER ONES, LIKE DINAR LIKE AN MLM, BUYING IT AND RESELLING IT, AND ITS COME OUT INTO THE OPEN, AND GOING ON FOR YEARS, STUPID.. BUT THAT'S THEM, THEY ARE LOOKING FOR PPL THAT DID IT AND ILLEGALLY. THIS BIG PUSH STARTED LAST WEEK, OR WEEK BEFORE LAST AND IDENTIFYING AND TRACKING THEM AND THEY HAVE A WAY OF GETTING THEM. KIND OF WAITING FOR THE EVENT TO HAPPEN, AS IT GIVES THEM MORE AUTHORITY. WE HAVE PPL HERE THAT BOUGHT FROM THE WRONG PERSON, . FBI, PIC'S AT THEIR HOUSE. SEE HOW FAR IT GOES, IF THEY CAN CASH IN THEIR DINAR. I'D RUN TO THE BANK, IF YOU ARE ONE OF THEM. LOOKING FOR 2 MANY PPL AND 2 MANY SITUATIONS AND I'VE BEEN MADE AWARE OF THEM, A WHOLE GROUP OF PPL THAT THEY'VE BEEN WATCHING FOR OVER 2 YEARS NOW. WE WONT' WORRY ABOUT IT

    T- WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO YOUR TSA PERSON

    PAM; YES, MR. Jones, IF YOU PM ME YOUR NUMBER - I'LL PASS IT TO TONY

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    c- at this point there is no bad decision, other than not making a decision, do you think this week, things will go through

    - just think the longer its put off, the worse it gets

    t- my feeling is that, I'll tell you what I have, but can't tell you what it is, don't think --- reason why it wasn't today and a reason why it is this week, and the fact that our Pres. is scheduled to make announcements every day this week and on TV every day this week, about the middle class economy -- some type of announcement this week, scheduled, and want to tell you guys... but can't tell you that part, I have a lot of confidence in this week, in 2 particular days this week because things are already in motion to make it happen.

    c- have you heard the rates for Indonesian Rupiah

    t- over a dollar

    c- the weekends make me very stressed

    t- because they come out with all kinds of things that can't be verified

    t- hopefully we won't have that problem for another weekend..... hold on

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    c- want to reiterate something about traveling, TSA,

    t- Pam said you had a story

    c- yes, in July, had my whole stash with me, and that was a mistake, and nothing in there that was detrimental to the plane or national security, but the guy doing the Xray stuff, and brought over another TSA guy, the little opening between the panel and took it around the back and searched it out of my site and there was a big line behind me and in a regional airport and the 1st thing I did was verify that the big stuff was still there, and it was... I had a small envelope of Dong in there and he thought it was a big thing and after the RV it would be a lot, and they stole it from me, and there is an 800#, there are cameras on both sides of the machine, so hopefully the agent that took it will get there's...

    t- if it were me, and had to get on a plane, but I'd take my ph. and if you don't have a smart phone, but I'd take a picture of each bundle and if my bag left my site, i wouldn't move until i verified that it was all still in the bag, if you had done that, and call the police right now, not later, but before those agents left the spot

    c- i know, found out this one little tidbit, there are limitations on how much you can take out of the country, but between state to state

    t- its your money - 10K out of the country- state to state - no restrictions

    c- be careful, it can happen to them

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    c- why do you think Okie was told to be quiet and you were not

    t- no idea and didn't talk to him about it, over the last 3 years, when ppl say that, no one with any authority has said it to me.... I know for a fact my name is mentioned in the UST, the Pentagon, the WH, I'm sure they know how to get a hold of me and tell me to shut up, don't know why they called everyone else...

    c- don't believe at all, that a lot of ppl are calling the banks, the majority I know , are not on blogs and hope someone will call them when it happens, do you know if ppl are calling the banks

    t- i know they are, but enough to shut the bank down..... ?

    t- whats going on w/ the banks, is not going to stop a global reset, every other country doesn't care whats going on w/ our banks, and if it is, its WF, the rest of the banks are working just fine.. just my opinion, and the bankers and the 3 letter ppl that I talk to, are not concerned, there were ppl in the parking lots, in 3 states, and 5 branches, surely don't want that to be a trend, but not the reason the RV didn't happen

    c- why didn't it happen

    t- on Friday there were ppl caught w/ their hand in the cookie jar, and on Sat. ppl trying to move lots of dinar, so it wasn't done at the time it was supposed to be announced, on Friday the banks were ready, called all their ppl in, and those on standby, and when they went home, they called them back, that's how close they were on Friday

    c- then they didn't let it go over the weekend

    t- don't know if it is, any day is perfect, but its coming

    c- in your heart of hearts, how good do you feel this week

    t- in my heart of hearts, the info I'm hearing is that there is a def. plan for this week, and scheduled announcements to be made, that's as close as I can get without crossing the line

    c- first part of the week or toward the end

    t- first part of the week is today

    c- I consider, Monday, Tuesday and Wed.

    t- well maybe there is something in motion that involves the entire week

    c- thank you and thank the mods, don't know how they do it over the weekend

    t- thank you and its a big thing w/ me, there are 4, 4 active

    PAM- WE GOT 4, AND MONTANA AND I DO WHAT WE CAN IN THERE, AND ARIZONA HEAT WHO COMES IN TO SURPRISE US,

    T- and 16,000 of you, a lot to ask of them, when they are volunteers

    T- we don't have anything to worry about with the transitional currency, don't worry at all. The thing I was talking about, was to buy it from LEGIT PLACES.

    NOT TALKING ABOUT DINAR TRADE, DINAR BANKER... SMALLER EXCHANGERS THAT WERE SHUT DOWN, DON'T KNOW HOW THEY ARE GOING TO TRACK THEM DOWN, AND GROUPS THAT SOLD IT TO INDIVIDUALS, I KNOW SOME STUFF THAT WENT ON IN RENO, AND SOME OF YOU ARE GOING TO BE SORRY, YOU JUST ARE... GROUPS WHO HAVE BEEN PUT TOGETHER W/ INCENTIVES, AS LONG AS THEY DIDN'T TAKE YOUR DINAR YOU'RE OK, BUT GOING AFTER THE ONES THAT TOOK THE DINAR, SOLD IT, WE'RE AT THE END, THAT'S WHY THEY ARE LOOKING AT IT NOW. PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE NEVER BROUGHT IT UP

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    c-a friend who got a letter from Chase that said they were going to close her acct. that her SS check goes into ( she's not in dinar )

    t- where are you?

    c- in a Casino

    c- playing the penny's

    t- your friend got ----- that they are going to close her acct.

    t- Whats that got to do with dinar?

    c- wondered if they were doing it for the reset

    t- no

    c- oh, she was really worried

    t- thank you

    c- buy

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    c- will we be required to take fiat currency

    t- if the RV happens today ( not going to ) have 2 sep. accts. have one for the revalued dinar in, and the other acct. for tax purposes, because they are trying to tax it separately, tracking the dinar, because its treasury backed, when you put the money in that acct. it is treasury dollars, and the dollars in your hand will be Fed. Res. dollars, because its all Fed. Res. $ because its cash, but the digital is Treasury..... until they come out w/ new treasury notes, the notes that come out in Oct. is $100 bill treasury notes... not going to spring it on them, in the future as our notes change, they may come out as physical treasury notes,

    c- so when we put the money in there its Fed. Res. whether we like it or not

    t- physical cash, is Fed. notes, but as far as the Gov. is concerned its treasury backed

    t- just keep it separate for tax purposes, they prefer you used that acct. use your card, or cashiers checks when you use that money, its tracked the same way

    c- so if we have a certain amt. in hand, we'll get fiat money to pay off the reserves and put into the acct that has treasury notes, and leave it there

    t- right, or spend it, they'll give you FED RES notes, once you pull the cash out.. it won't affect you

    c- haircut?

    t- don't know that there is going to be a haircut, why would we have one, if the RV takes place

    c- some guy named Tony told me there would be

    t- will the dollar go down, absolutely

    t- you'll have the same $100 in your acct - but it won't buy as much

    c- just a figure change

    t- there is a value change

    t- the figure won't change

    t- you'll still have the same $100 in your acct. and it just won't buy what it used to

    c- the purchasing power changed

    t- right

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    c-doing a good job, you know that its on recaps every day... aware of that

    t- I'm aware of that I say something and then someone posts it on there site and they get paid, lol

    t- good idea, wish I thought of it, so I can make easy money

    c- everything from the ph. #s but everything...

    t- we get 16,000 so we get 30K on a call, but can't tell the sites not to broadcast the info, know I'm doing the right things and get what we get, in the end it will all work out

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    c- the devaluation of the dollar is next month

    t- I don't think so

    t- there will be new reserve currency's the 5 regions will start... its not like you'll wake up one morning, but a gradual thing and it will come back up, got to go down to come up

    c- the time limit that we have to get an appt. and set our house in order.... ( she's trying to figure out how to buy a house and move )

    my RADIO STOPPED

    t- if the value of the dollar goes down, there is a ripple effect, just like before and real estate going down now, and less real estate will be sold, RADIO WENT DOWN when they see that they can't afford it anymore....TIME IT RIGHT

    c- thank you for getting me through the rough times and lots of friends had to sell dinar to survive, I try to hang on

    c- thank the mods and transcriber's, and looking forward to seeing your crew, God Bless you and your mom and dad

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    Tony- looking at the thing at the Naval yard..... everyday something else

    c- love katabora - God is going to bless you and reward you, and listening to whats going on at the Naval Base, lift up our nation and the truth comes forward, and do you think this will have a hold up on the plans for this week

    t- no I don't think it will.. ppl in DC are on lock down, the Pres. was 3 miles away, looking for the other 2 guys, don't think it will affect the timing

    c- in the past you had a contact who made food? are they making food for this Thursday,

    t- whats significant about it?

    c- not going to say

    c- something is

    t- lol

    LOST THE RADIO AGAIN

    t- something about its not going to happen till 40,000 ppl are arrested...

    c- our debt isn't the only problem we have

    c- google the 700T derivatives out there, its looming

    c- God Bless you and your family, your brother, No weapon formed it will not prosper

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    c- mentioned stuff on groups

    c- have Pam take my number down

    c- do you think the week is the week, and about the group, who would loose money

    t- where the money has disappeared and where the ppl disappeared, and that's the issue you have to know - when yo get involved with groups, that are giving you an online name, you don't know who they are, signing agreements with, you do it on your own... everyone knows everything about me... i know for a fact that ppl lost their money already and that they will lose their money, the way its set up... those that look and go through financial things, don't rush you into a decision, cause that's what they do, try to give you as much advice as I can

    c- most are driven by desperation, take a little money to get out of debt... appreciate what you and the mods do

    c- if Pam can call me...

    TONY- IF EVERYONE --- EVERYONE IS GOING TO GET PAID, REGARDLESS, AND IF THE #S STAY THE WAY THEY ARE, YOU'LL HAVE AN UNBELIEVABLE AMOUNT OF MONEY MORE THAN A LIFETIME, DON'T LET GREED MAKE A MISTAKE OR DESPERATION, CAUSE YOU WILL HAVE $ -- CASH ONE NOTE, DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU HAVE, IT WILL SOLVE THINGS FOR MOST PPL AND THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE GETTING READY TO DO BEFORE YOU DO THE REST OF IT, DON'T LET ANYONE THREATEN YOU, IF THEY HAVE TO THREATEN THERE IS REASON FOR CAUSE, IF ITS NOW OR NEVER, THEN ITS REASON FOR CAUSE, TIME TO THINK AND TALK TO PPL, I KNOW THAT THEY WANT YOU IN 30 DAYS, BUT TALK TO THEM NOW, AND GET THE GAME PLAN TOGETHER, DON'T DO THINGS WITH FEAR AND LOSS, IF THEY DO, THEY WIN....

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    c- I'm the messenger, this is our week -announcements - written or verbal -

    t- scheduled to be verbal, but lol, lots of ppl will write about it

    c- this side of the Atlantic or....

    t- both

    t- it may not be the same way

    c- at some point the Parliament twas to be out, and Najafi, press conference on the 18th

    c- announcing instead of Maliki

    t- ummmmm, could be, Parliament would be going on vacation to celebrate, its over , take a break

    c- is that true, they'll be out the 19-24th

    t- my info from over there, if they go on vacation as scheduled, its because its all over

    c- that may mean next week on my birthday that it will be a pretty decent birthday

    t- lol, and I'll celebrate too

    c- thanks to you and the mods...

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    c- why are you all pushing banks, I plan on going to the Florida currency exchange

    t- they won't have the ability to negotiate,

    c- whatever you pay them, you deduct from the taxes

    t- some will, and its the best thing to do

    t- go to one of the exchangers, before a traveled... but more money then you thought you'd get anyone

    c- right,

    ( cute conversation about the computer and the TV buttons and the Chevy Impala ) lol

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    c- missed something on the groups and Reno.. knew someone that went and met w/ them

    t- that's a subject I should never have spoke of,, some groups.. are being looked at and some ppl disappear, more complaints in the last 3months, than in the last 3 years, more calls to law enforcement and the Atty General than in the last 3 years

    c- he sent couple dinar, for free up bail money I guess...

    t- you said for bail money

    c- for tight times... for bailing out of a fix, not jail

    c- this week is diff. you said there are dates set -

    t- dates set, times set, ppl, called in, the one thing that is diff. right now, ppl in Washington have a schedule of events to look at, that doesn't mean that its gong to happen... but this time they have a schedule of events

    c- do we know the major reserve currencies

    t- the dinar is, the yen is, new agreements, Canada, we'll have this conversation after the RV - you'll appreciate it more

    c- thanks to the mods and the transcribers

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    c- how is super fantastic

    t- i am super fantastic

    c- hope you are not a 49er fan

    t- I'm a Raiders fan, through and through, used to be a Cowboys fan 30 years ago

    c- as a former banker, it doesn't make sense, to spend time and money on the back and forth game to the call centers

    t- my take is, that the other banks are doing just that, one effective Friday, so the only one that calls them in and back are the lead bank -- they don't do it, unless they are directed to -- they get a call that says - get your ppl there and get them in the bank to exchange in 2 hours.. as of Friday, this one bank, getting frustrated.. said they're not doing it

    and maybe that's making this week happen

    c- would the UST get notification from the IMF or the CBI

    t- the UST calling all the Bank CEO's and this is the time we're looking at this afternoon, but dealing w/ this issue and think it will be resolved by 2 o'clock--- then 2 o'clock comes and then there is another problem, but just keep your ppl there, and so we can make the announcement, because each time, we catch a few more bad guys that are trying to work the system, and

    c- what statement that it is imminent--I'm the messenger

    t- who they are

    c- my friend

    t- lol, like the PTB, there is a plan and a schedule and they set out dates and we just need to see if it happens -- have we been there before, when they said its going live at 3, and it still hasn't happened yet, the only difference this time, is that there is more advance and more info being passed out, that I can't give you, and don't think they would unless they planned on doing it and there is a schedule now, which wasn't there before and things on the schedule that seem like it is to happen, and the schedule is matching up, East and West...

    c- so sometime in the near future

    t- you don't mean imminent

    t0 you mean definite

    t-its definitely going to happen

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    c- the pamphlets, which bank

    t- can't tell you, or you all would go down there and I know, cause I did it

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    c- first off I think you should be my best friend....and I can pick your brain

    t- wait a min. a best friend with benefits

    t- what do I get

    c- I'll feed you man

    t- oh ok, even trade

    c- do you think it will go by Oct. 2nd or next year

    t- one bank told their ppl that said if it doesn't go today - don't look till Oct.

    t- don't think next year

    t- everyone else thinks it will go before the time frame

    c- the ? you are waiting for someone to ask the question

    t- can you tell us what you can't tell us and I'd say no I can't lol

    t- the limited number of ppl that know about it, but if someone puts it out, I can confirm it, but its not happening today, but it is scheduled for this week

    c- like on Tuesday?

    t- that's a good day for it yes

    c- awesome

    t- look up the Pres. schedule, he's making announcements on every day

    t- one of them will be a great day

    c- thank you for you and all the mods....

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    c- you liked Mtn. Goats post, but not till Oct. due to the fiscal year

    t- I feel it will happen before Oct. and the ppl I talk to say before Oct. and the plan and schedule say before Oct.

    c- Russia and China are ticked, what happened to the urgency

    t- Syria happened, and knew it was going to be an issue,

    t- it accelerated it, and clouded the picture a bit, supposedly there is a green light been given, and not let it affect the global currency

    c- signed by Kerry last Thurs.

    t- really hasn't been signed, agreed to

    c- didn't realize it wasn't signed

    t- don't think its been signed

    c- Nat'l meeting on the 19th, any bearing

    t- don't know if they have a Nat'l Meeting or go on vacation

    t- lots of ppl in DC think they had the meeting 2 weeks ago

    t- remember when the news comes out in Iraq, its already occurred, we have gotten the info a few days or a week before it, and the Mtn Goat post, I like it, because its info I have and understand it, but some things I know are done and passed out and completed and we are waiting on an announcement that we are too see

    c- was that a hint, that the Pres. will be making announcement

    t- announcing something,

    c- think he said our economy will be stronger than WW2

    c- that was a big hint

    t- wasn't able to pay attention, will play it back

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    c- ie. 6 ppl in a group and in excess of $150M dinar, in order to get a good rate, do I have to negotiate before I go to the bank, by one person

    t- its easier w/ one person, but you can all go together

    c- the person that does the work gets a higher rate

    t- no

    t- in that case, you and your friends, and you all get the higher rate

    t- if you said you give them 5.00 and give me 6.00 - I wouldn't want a friend like that

    c- if I want to take out $500 K of Dong and take it in 2 cashiers checks and take 500K of my IQD to another bank and another 2 checks of .... ( she lost me on this one ...... listen to the replay )

    t- you can take $5M they dont' care, just dont' wire over 500K, they dont' care how much you spend....

    c- thought you can't buy a house till after 30 days,

    t- buy your house the next day, day after...

    c- so Mr. Obama is telling the world our Natl debt is paid for, how will he go about explaining that

    t- don't think that's the announcement he will make, more along New Monetary systems, globally, new growth, transparency, don't think he's going to announce "oh hey guys we wiped out the debt this morning" lol

    Clinton didn't... but he won't say BECAUSE OF THE IRAQ WAR, we got enough $ to pay off the debt and 4 million citizens will become millionaires...

    c- thanks to you and the mods, and can't wait to spend the money

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    c- someone said you have a big ego, but you took the time to make a private call and anyone that's willing to do that is a super person

    t- when did I call you....

    c- last week, and my wife answered the ph

    t- I remember

    c- some other issues that came up, if Pam or someone else wants to talk about it

    c- you have a heart as big as gold

    t- I'll see if Pam wants to do it this time

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    c- understand, not looking for it today

    c- but if you picked 2 days for this week

    t- Tuesday- Friday

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    c- don't know if you heard that the .... resigned, to take over the Fed Res and working on a process, with more news , does it have to do w/ whats happening,

    t- I know he wanted to resign on the 1st of Oct. but don't know

    c- they announced the girls name whose taking over and she's going to ramp up to change the economy

    t- know he was trying to put a woman in there, just google

    c- are we still on Plan A

    t- we are still on Plan A effective sooner rather than later, this month ahead of Oct. from what I'm hearing

    c- lots of announcements coming up w/ the economy

    c- maybe watch out for ppl out there, someone out there saying to buy dinar for 5.70 cents, is that a good scenario...

    t- lets think about it, no idea what its about, seen it posted, and what I got from a source in the treasury this morning, the latest scam, there is a group out there and want you buy into the platform and make 500M a month, and the platform is in Switzerland, but actually in the Dominican Republic and what it is, you send a picture of you and a picture of your dinar and fill out the application and now they have your pertinent info and you put your acct. so they can send it to and now they created a new identity and just wait for the RV and take all your money out...

    t- if someone said they'd put the money in, but prove that you have the dinar, but never buy it till after the RV, just easy access to the account and I got that from a treasury source this morning.. you decide

    c- be very careful trusting anyone, other than the bank and the trader

    t- if you want to give me money, meet me at the bank and do the deal, you don't need my passport... keep it simple, anything other than that, someone is building some kind of data base, this is your one chance to get this kind of money. Please don't give it away

    c- I put up the post, about the 5.70 and don't know if its real, but thought it was that was close, and the naysayers, have my eyes wide open

    c- lots of things that are too good to be true, and skeptical... got a question for you?

    c- if was to plant a money tree, and it was to blossom, would it blossom on a Tuesday, or Wednesday or Thursday?

    t- I think it would blossom somewhere between Tuesday - Friday. And once it got started, it would be a little more each day....

    c- for all the ppl that think I was trying to rip them off, I haven't submitted anyone to the program and think that they wanted to get you into a contract for cheap and then the dinar goes....

    t- look at risk versus reward

    c- if its going to be this week, then... doesn't make sense

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    c- there is supposed to be a big announcement on Wed. I think it would go tomorrow or the day after the meeting....

    t- nothing wrong w/ good thoughts, tomorrow of after the meeting...

    t- and it could be, there is a plan, and a schedule made out, and events this week, its just more detailed then its ever been, doesn't mean it can't change... but at this point, its a great week

    c- the fed and all that... reading last night and today... the signs on that....thanks and to all your ppl....

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    c- are SKR's for real?

    t- real for the folks that got them, know ppl that were offered them and ppl that turned them down, but don't know if the higher rate comes out do they get the price? There are ppl w/ skr's yes.

    c- this is so crazy, when you have all that money, its all about the dollar

    t- its all about the dollars and who you know and things don't go by the book.. the more you know the more you grow, and life is not fair, and ppl that have privileges... and get things we don't get, and try to live and get there

    t- ppl that got SKRs and loans on the skr's, but you have to know someone or be someone, is it done, yes, can everyone do it, no, it is what it is.

    c- happy I do know - its more than 2 years ago,

    t- good, all of us need to grow through this process, not afterward and lose the money....

    c- thank you, my hat is off to you, you were chosen to do this and appreciate your obedience and look forward to meeting you an the rest of the team

    TONY- JUST SO YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T VOLUNTEER FOR THIS JOB, AND NO GOOD DEED GOES UNPUNISHED, AND THAT'S OK TOO, AND I CAN HANDLE IT, AND IN THE END IT WILL ALL WORK OUT

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    THEY ARE TRYING TO HELP

    AND BRING THE BEST INFO WE CAN

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    THERE IS NO CHARGE FOR THIS SITE

    THERE IS A DONATE BUTTON

    AND SHOW RESPECT TOWARD THEM AND EACH OTHER

    THIS SITE IS TO LEARN…ASK QUESTIONS

    YOU DON'T HAVE TO AGREE WITH TONY

    I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO SAY THAT YOU HAVE TO AGREE OR WE TOSS YOU OUT

    NO

    BUT BE RESPECTFUL

    AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE 7, 8 PPL RUIN THE BOARD

    OR 20 PPL,…WE CAN DO W/OUT THEM

    ALL THE NEWS IS GOOD NO ONE TOLD ME TO BE QUIET. NO ONE SAID YOU AND I ARE HOLDING UP THE RV AND I THINK THEY WOULD
    AND SPEAK TO ENOUGH BANK PPL AND DC PPL AND I THINK IT IF WAS, WE'D HAVE RESOLVED IT A LONG TIME AGO. WOULD HAVE SAID ITS THE PROBLEM. I DON'T LOOK FOR IT TODAY DESPITE THE BLIP IN NASDAQ, BUT WHEN THINGS WERE COMPLETED WHICH MAY BE A GOOD THING. THERE IS A PLAN OUT…AND A SCHEDULE OUT…AND IN MORE DETAIL THAN EVERY BEFORE AND ITS ALL GOOD THINGS. THE BANKS ARE TELLING THEIR PPL, PUSHING IT THRU TO THE TELLER SCREEN.

    WE ARE THERE GUYS. ITS A TIMING ISSUE, NOTHING MECHANICA, NOTHING POLITICAL. ITS A TIMING ISSUE AND THE BAD ELEMENT GOT RID OF SOME OVER THE WEEKEND AND ITS A TIMING ISSUE AT THIS POINT. HOPE YOU ENJOY THE CALL. TAKE IT TO HEART. IT'S THE INFO TODAY ALL. THIS IS WHAT I'M HEARING. WE ARE THAT CLOSE TO IT. DO THE RIGHT THING AND HOPEFULLY BEFORE THE END OF THE WEEK THE RIDE WILL BE OVER.

    THANK YOU

    HAVE A GREAT DAY EVERYBODY
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    TNT Tony Saturday Night CC

    Post by Admin on Sun Sep 22, 2013 1:26 am

    TNT Tony Saturday Night CC Recorded Link with Notes by FlPatriot59 at I4U

    09/21/2013


    REPLAY 805-399-1500 409029#

    BlogTalkRadio RECORDED LINK

    Notes by FlPatriot59 at I4U Chat:

    [FLPatriot59] T = TONY | C = CALLER

    Tony - Good evening, late late evening. It's the first day of fall and our late night call. I'm doing this call because people have been asking all day for updates about what's happening with Okie, and give you an update. There are some changes in the processing with WF and Chase and the gov't.
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    T - immediately after the RV I will give a history of what's been going on with these boards for the past 3 years. I'll do it after the fact and you can then go back and see how things progressed and see whether or not I've been telling the truth. That will give you a business lesson about who you can trust.

    T - All day long I've been getting calls from DC and overseas, what's in their news there, etc. are they being told the same things? The answer is YES - they are being told about the change that has occured iin the value of their dinar. We haven't seen it and the CBI hasn't seen it. But they're telling their people that so at some point the change has to happen.

    T - If Iraq was in charge we would have seen it already. As far as DC has told me they've been authorized for 2 weeks in a row to make an RV announcement. We know they are putting out the info and it's public.

    T - what did we learn today? This morning all the bank people (call centers, cash-out centers) were called in at 6AM and they were told to expect the rate to be live and to be busy. But instead they sat around all day playing cards, waiting.

    T - it didn't happen for a bunch of reasons. We heard it was being used as a political football. We heard it was because of the debt ceiling issue. We heard that the docs from Syria weren't signed and sealed, which is supposed to happen over the weekend.

    T - what we do know is that the system is ready. We know the banks are ready. DC folks are upset it didn't happen. It was supposed to start last night and it didn't. It is supposed to start tonight and 24-48 hours past the start we are supposed to see it. It is going, so everybody is calm. They are looking for it - should be here by Monday. The POTUS is making a speech tomorrow about the economy. May or may not be about the RV. After that we should see it - but don't be surprised if you see it before.

    T - I have some really good stuff to give you afterwards.

    T - We as intel providers have an opportunity to do the best we can for everyone we can. We do a lot of work. What I don't think is for you to be used and abused and lied to. That is crossing the line with me. As long as I've been in this, we all should have enough dinar.

    T - Okie called me after the call yesterday and was a little upset and concerned. He said those guys jumped all over him and it upset him. He is 72 years old, by the way. They continue to threaten him so he's going with me to CE and get the highest rates. When he first called me he told me that 2 of his mods met with G64 and made a deal to sign up with them. They were offered a big amount to go this place (WF) for CE

    T - For 2 of his own mods to get together with G64 and then threaten Okie if he didn't go along with them they'd make sure he would get the lowest rate or get black-listed.

    T - I'm asking the people doing this to put their names out there - not their screen names - tell you who they are and see that they are not rich. See who you're dealing with and who's doing this to a 72-year old man. Nobody cares if you're getting a higher rate, or 3-4 different levels, etc. just don't lie about. Let them reveal who they are so you can see who you're working with. I didn't like the whole thing. If I'm wrong, tell them to tell you their names. If they won't tell you because they say they're under an NDA, tell them you will not call the 800# until they tell you what they deal is.

    T - I've answered the questions now about who the 2 groups are. I told Okie he can go with me and he doesn't need to worry about it.

    T - This is going to be announced and is coming out of DC. WF, Chase, and BoA will ALL be able to offer you the same rates - just as high as any other bank - group or no group. They said they made that decision based on what's been going on with these boards.

    T - First you have to use the correct terminology. You have to ask to exchange the IQN, NOT the IQD. Based on what you say is what you'll get. If you know what the rate it, the highest rate available, they've been instructed to give that rate to you if you ask for it, regardless of whether or not you're in a group.

    T - You will know what the highest rate is so that is what you can ask for. When it comes out we'll put it out. So everybody here will have the same opportunities to get the highest rates available. They don't need your zip code and you don't have to be part of a group.

    T - there's a chance you might see something in the next 24 hours. Banks are on standby ready to come in. There will be no codes. You can call the 800# you can get yourself (not what someone else gives you). It's your choice.

    T - As of today, the trading dollars for all oil credits around the world were changed from the USD to the Yuan. We know why. We talked about it.

    T - we know it was supposed to be a 2-year process. This is the start of it. Right now it's for oil credits only. This is the start of that big picture of them becoming the global currency. Remember the 5 regions being setup by the IMF. There is a power player in each of the 5 regions that will change in early 2014.

    T - It was easier to tell you this in a call rather than in a blast. Everything is still in motion - whether it's tomorrow or Monday, the system is already started and there's no stopping it now. I want you to know the decision they made about the groups - that you don't need to be part of a group. They're offering it to anybody who knows. I'm not telling you stop doing what you were going to do. As the questions and if they won't tell you who they are, there's a problem. I know who they are and there is an FBI report on them. If it goes the wrong way it could affect you. Does it affect you? That's the key thing to remember. I don't have a group - I have 40 people who are close (family, relatives, Okie). But I'm not putting together a group. I don't want to be responsible for that many people.

    T - This is only going to be an hour call because of east coast people. So I'll take a few questions real quick.

    LIVE Q&A STARTING NOW..... C = Caller | T = Tony

    C - will you post the rates for the VND/VNN as well? T - yes, you're doing a currency exchange for the VNN and IQN.

    C - Who's the announcement coming from? T - Might be cominig from the POTUS, possibly on the Sunday AM programs. He won't blatantly say it.

    Pam - can't they ask for the vietnamese dong and iraqi dinar and not have to remember the initials? T - I was told today to use those terms. They're going to low-ball you so take this info and get the best you can.

    C - After the announcement that the rate is "live" what is the procedure for you to let us know? T - once it goes live I'll get a call from DC. I'll take to 3 different bank people who can verify the rates are live. Then I'll send out a text that the rate is "live" and that I'll talk to you in an hour. I will see what the ceiling rate is (right now over $20 and the VNN was over $2). I know if you ask for the $3 rate you'll get it.

    C - where will the bank's numbers come from? T - If we can track down the bank's numbers we wil post them. It won't be a big announcement on their websites. It won't be in plain site. Or you can call the bank and ask for the 800# for CE.

    C - How do we negotiate for the higher rates? T - they're being told if you ask for and it's a legitmate rate, they're supposed to give it to you. If you tell them you know it's the rate because someone you know cashed out, but they won't give it to you, walk out. Don't be afraid to walk out. You've got 30 days if you don't think you're being dealt with honestly. We'll work it out as a team here.

    C - Did you see LeGarde's speech? She mentioned another country coming onboard. Do you know which one it is? T - No I don't. I didn't see the speech.

    C - I do already have the WF 800# for Foreign Currency Exchange and Wealth Manager. I can send them to you. When we negotiate (even tho I'm part of the Generals, but I'm not happy with them now), can I go to all four different banks? T - yes, you can spread them out at different banks. Whichever gives you the highest rate you can use as leverage at the others and ask them what they're going to do for you.

    C - Will these rates be reflected at CBI and Forex? T - they'll have to be reflected at Forex. CBI will only show their in-country rate. What you'll see is not the "real" rate but a special circumstance rate that will eventually level off closer to the Kuwait rate. When the new rate comes out and you see what the KWD rate is, you'll know it will go within $1 of the KWD.

    C - When will the news of the Yuan hit the mainstream news? T - I won't. I was told it would take affect today, because it's been negotiated for the past 30 days. C - any news about taxes? T - no news.

    T - You want to do a CURRENCY EXCHANGE FOR THE VNN AND IQN. NOT A CASH-IN!

    C - the process, within the next 48 hours, is different. Can you tell us something about the PTB that keeps stopping it? T - I don't know that the process is different. I know the people are saying, as of Friday, that the process is in motion. Before they weren't saying that. And they are happy and confident they'll see it by Monday.

    C - When they said it couldn't be stopped, had they said this before? T - no, I didn't say it couldn't be stopped, but at this point it shouldn't be.

    C - Don't feel bad. You don't have to apologize for not having a group. Now the playing fields are leveled and the banks will all offer the high rates. Was the Parliament holiday confirmed? T - I don't know. I know somebody's listening who can answer that.

    C - will the Chinese Yuan be a good lateral move? T - yes, including Canada, China, Australia, and Brazil post-RV.

    C - what's with the 24-48 hours? Still a 72-hour waiting period? T - Don't know about that. All the pairs are done. The rates are at the banks now.

    C - Do you want to parse words with Mtn Goat about the dinar being international? T - right now we're not seeing the new rates but they did it thinking on Friday morning this would happen. The Iraqi people have been told the process is complete.

    C - Did China stop the process on Friday for Petro dollars? T - I was told they didn't like the process and some of the rates some people were getting.

    C - I'm a Canadian and need help getting to the International Chat line and in the Forum. T/Pam - we have TNT Global on the Forum but no international chat.

    T - Unfortunately this was a short call. RECAP: Everybody is great. Most people think we should see this by Monday. Bank and security personnel were there all day and were told to be on stand-by for tomorrow. Bankers called their people to come in on Monday to cash-out. We were given 3-4 reasons why it didn't go thru but it should go thru now. Listen to the POTUS speech tomorrow for key words that apply. Right before or after (Sunday evening/night) you could see something. The rates were still over $20 for the IQN and came down to $2 for the VNN. You asked about whom I was speaking about regarding Okie: it was Generals64 group that some of his own members went behind his back to join and threatened him even more. Hopefully this Monday it's all over and we can move on. If anything incredible happens I'll do a blast. Otherwise, enjoy your weekend.

    END OF CALL.

    (Note: It’s best to stay calm…Misunderstandings and Misinformation may be the cause of bad feelings and strife in the Dinar community….Read all points of view and make up your own minds….We feel that most of the Intel Providers are honestly trying to help us all. The truth will come out eventually and meanwhile we appreciate the Intel providers sharing what their sources are telling us…Thank you all)
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    TONY, TNTDINAR CC NOTES & REPLAY, 9-23-2013

    Post by Admin on Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:38 pm

    TONY, TNTDINAR CC NOTES & REPLAY, 9-23-2013
    By Flpatriot59

    Dinar Recaps Note: Okie Graciously brought closure to a misunderstanding today. We have decided to stay a neutral party in any ongoing controversy in Dinarland. Any disagreements should be worked out in private … in our opinion. These notes are from the “Intel” Part of today's call….Thank you Tony for all your time and information….Thank you FlPatriot59 for your outstanding notes and Thank you to all our readers. The Dinar Recaps Team

    [FLPatriot59] CALL STARTING NOW....T = TONY | C = CALLER

    TONY - It was a great weekend with lots of information. I had hoped to call you from the bank this morning. Lots of excited people around the world expecting it to happen. There were celebrations yesterday evening and everywhere we called people were saying it was over and done. Most of them went to the banks at 6AM this morning and they're still waiting. There are not problems - we're just waiting. The rates are still there. Sometime today it should happen. Nobody has any hold-ups, everybody saying everything has been signed off on. It's just a matter of time.
    T - I want to talk with you about some procedures/places to go, rates you will see. Some of it will blow your minds. I want to talk about the IQD and IQN. At least 3 banks BoA, 5/3, Chase will have no groups and will be competitive. I don't want you go cash out before me so I can tell you what's going on. Don't call the 800# until I can tell you what's happening.

    T - Here's where are this morning: It's going to be a great day. Everybody is waiting. They gave people a time at the bank today, but everybody is saying there are no problems and the system is ready to go. What I like is that this morning it went down and it went down at all banks, so no one could see it all at the same time. This morning it was at the teller screens for 15 minutes then it went down (purposefully to test the system).

    T - Here's the thing: You MUST go in and ask for IQN or VNN - NOT IQD, NOT Dinar, otherwise you'll get the IQD rate, which is still more than you ever thought you'd get, but it won't be the high rate. That's the difference between the rates people are seeing.

    T - I'm getting the exact same info from multiple banks. They're all seeing the same numbers. The fact that the other banks (BoA, Chase, 5/3) don't have groups, no 800#. You don't need a group but you can still go in as a group and get a high rate. Each bank will post their own 800#s. You still have to use the right terminology to get the highest price.

    T - I'll tell you the active rates at that moment and a rate above that rate, for people who want to go in and negotiate for $2-3 more as a group or as an individual.

    T - Nobody ever expected what we're about to see. I can't give you the ceiling rate because they could change it if I do. The important part is when you go CE, come back here and share it with everybody. Help each other out, those that don't have to sign an NDA. Help the group out.

    T - They're going to try and sell you on perks and privileges. They already have packages made up. Look at the extra things you'll need. You might have to negotiate the interest rate you'll get, and want to be one of their top tier investors for outside opportunities.

    Q&A FROM CHAT ROOM.....

    Q - Mtn Goat said the IQN is for the lower denoms. If this is true what is the story with the VNN and dropping zeros.
    A - the VND doesn't have new notes that I know of. They do have 2 separate rates based on the symbols I've given you. What you ask for is what you'll get. We don't have the LDs here in the US. Unless you ask for old currency, then you'll get that value rate. It's at the banks now and they're being told if you ask for IQD you'll get that rate.

    Q - assuming the whales and US Gov't have exchanged, when will the oil companies profits be taxed?
    A - I have no idea.

    Q - can we use the 800# only once?
    A - that only applies to WF. I was instructed yesterday that you can only use that group 800# once. The other 800#s you can use as often as you want and go as often as you want. Each time you go you can negotiate a new rate (except at WF). Call centers are located in FL, TN, TX, NC, and out west. They're all being instructed the same. I'm giving you the info to help you. Take it or leave it. I'm not making a penny on any of this. Don't panic - except for the 30 days you'll have time.

    Q - new symbol for the Rupiah?
    A - Someone was going to look that up. Somebody will send me a text with that answer.

    Q - will dealers still be doing the exchange. I call a dealer and they never call back.
    A - if they're not getting back with you now, will they call you back when they have 10K folks calling them? The dealers will exchange at the base rate, which is still higher than we've ever talked about before. They won't be able to negotiate with you because they don't have the flexibility as the banks do. If you're concerned about the 30 days and waiting for appointments, the exchangers still do offer an outlet to people. Go online, place your order, wire the funds, etc. There are options.

    Q - I'm assuming once this happens the dealers will stop selling at their current rate. Can we get a list of dealers and their plans?
    A - no, I don't have a plan on how each dealer will handle the CE. Call them and the one that answers should be the one to go with.

    Q - How can UST and China come up with enough funds to cover our CE?
    A - the US is printing $80B a month right now out of thin air. Do you think they have a problem printing more? Again, it's digital money. They can create $100T and the world will look the same. They're not using their money for oil credits - they're using the IQD, which will go back to Iraq. As oil goes up, the credits become more valuable. There is only so much dinar and if oil goes up they become more valuable.

    T - ANECDOTE ABOUT BERNIE MADOFF AND HOW ASSETS WERE LOST.

    T -I saw and article - you can google it. Bernie Madoff, "Biggest ponzi scheme ever." 65 billion. Fri. evening Ernie went home with 65 billion and everyone involved with him was rich, several houses, black cards, bought antying they wanted. Life was great. Mon. morning Bernie said "I made this whole thing up." By 5 pm all those people were broke. Where did it all go? Because 1 guy said I made it up and they were were all broke. On saturday I saw another article about the biggest Ponzi scheme ever: the Federal Reserve. How does a bank take your $100 and loan it out 10 times?

    "LIVE" Q & A STARTING NOW. T = TONY | C = CALLER

    C - You're the point man on dissolving the groups. And that 11% up front is a fee. You've taught us to think independently.
    T -I don't have anything against groups. I thought since someone took the time to negotiate I thought they deserved to get something out it. The more info I got from bank employees who I called they let me know more info. They were saying "don't trust them" - read the contract. The contract I have is for the group in Reno. The other one I just have the info and I know who the people are and what was discussed.

    T - Regarding the announcement, I don't know how that will happen. I got a call from someone in DC and they were saying they made changes because of that they are hearing about the groups. They told me that I would make the RV call. They told me this is what you're going to say "how the exchange will happen, etc." I did a call the other night and shared this info. They've been monitoring the lines and wanted to make sure everybody knew this. I am absolutely looking for it today. It's not about me, but about the guys on the boards.

    C - In 10 minutes Hawaii opens. Will we see it then?
    T - no, not in the next 10 minutes, not in the next hour unless they want to prove me wrong. We could be doing a call this afternoon/evening, which is why I wanted to keep this call short.

    C - Who is truly responsible for giving the authorization so we can go to the bank?
    T - I don't know. I'm getting texts right now. UST signed off. IMF signed off. Banks saying it's live on teller screens this AM for 15 minutes.

    C - We've been holding on to the $23.50 for so long and you're telling us that's old now. Is there another placeholder?
    T- Tony also said the rate was now 23.75. How could you not be blown away if it comes out at $23-25?

    C - When we go in will we be able to negotiate based on how much we have?
    T - There is a rate. Most bankers will do their jobs and try to convince you that that is a really great rate. Some have been instructed that if they ask for it, give it to them. Get them in and out. Don't play games. Some of you won't ask for a dime more. Some will ask for $23.50 when the rate is $23. They're not going to give you more than the ceiling rate. But you won't know what that is, so shoot for the stars and land on the moon. It'll still be more than you walked in with.

    C - China's deal is still with WF, right? Will they still get what they want out of the deal?
    T - the China deal was the Reno stuff - an 18-page contract. People are confusing this with the groups. Be careful and read what you're given. They only think with no restrictions is when you walk into the bank on your own

    (Note: Tony may not know the details of the Private Purchase with China ……Please do your own due diligence).

    C - Should we tell the bank the amount we have, including reserves?
    T - I don't think you'll have trouble because with the other banks (not WF) you'll be able to come in multiple times. It's not for me because of the stuff that's hidden in there and the way it's presented. I don't care if people make money but lying about it bothers me.

    C - Sounds like today is the day but that might mean some banking hours in the evening.
    T - Cash out centers are scheduled untill 11PM and call centers are scheduled 24 hours based on 3 shifts. They will still ask about the amount of dinar you hold and will send you to locations based on that info.

    C - will we see if on the CBI first?
    T - I don't know. It may be the in-country rate, not the USA rate.

    T - I've heard it would be CBI, then Forex, then to us. But that's all changed. They're waiting to see it just like we are.

    C - If we had no money to donate while we were poor, can ppl still donate afterwards to like a Tony Foundation and it's up to you how you do take it.
    T - everyone knows what happened to my daughter (killed in car wreck at age 11)...so we are involved with MADD. I will talk to Mrs. Renfro and see what she wants to do. You know what happened to my daughter so MADD is always something we deal with and then anything that deals with children. Children's houses, make the best Xmas for kids.

    T - every city and town have veterans who need help. I know peeps want to give to an organziation, but check out those local organizations.

    C - Referencing article: "Parliament to hold its regular session on Tuesday Monday, 23 September 2013 15:54 Baghdad (AIN) –The parliament will resume its session on next Tuesday. A statement by the Media Office of the parliament received by All Iraq News Agency cited "The parliament will hold its session on next Tuesday after postponing it for five days due to the participation of the Kurdish MPs in the Parliamentary elections of the Kurdistan Region." "The parliament will vote on four laws and will conduct the reading of nine other law drafts," the statement concluded." Will this be the trigger point on that side?

    C - we are all grasping at straws trying to figure out the timing.
    T - People in the system, in banking, at all levels were so hyped up last night b/c of what they were told and getting everybody. Today is supposed to be THE day.

    C - Any idea what we're waiting on now?
    T - I have no idea. Should have been done already. Across the board all bank screens went blank then came back.

    C-We had a discussion on OM today. With the rates being as high as they are we should go in an cash in now. Why wait? Someone asked would you cash out the rupiah also cuz no one knows. Since the IQN is negotiable, would we not hold that and wait for a higher rate? Should we just exchange VNN first?
    T - the VNN and IQN will fluctuate and hit the market. All the money managers will be shocekd but that's their market pushing it up and down.

    T - The numbers you see will be for you to cash out. Don't try and figure out how to take risks. Do that on later investments. Don't jeopordize your money.

    T - at these rates, take your money and run. Don't gamble. Veterans are going to play the numbers game, but not the average person. This is the opportunity of a lifetime - don't play with that.

    T - banks are different from Sterling Currency. He said you can make an appt and if it goes up you get it. Don't play with that at the banks.

    CALLER IS CHATTING - NO QUESTION YET.

    T - If you look on the front page of the site, you'll see banks listed. We will put the basic rates we get from them but we won't be updating them. They will be a BASE to start with, as the minumim amount they should be offering. From that rate there will be room above that if you want to negotiate.

    C - did you say you saw the Reno contracts?
    T - you heard me say I have a copy of it.

    C - Are the rates you're seeing today within $10 of those rates?
    T - Yes.

    C - What rate was it live for 15 minutes?
    T - I can't tell you or they'll know that I know. I can tell you that on Friday everything had changed in the industry and DC and, from multiple banks, they all got the same message on Friday that giving out information could have prison terms associated with it. So I can't give out specific info until after the RV happens.

    C - Do you have any idea how many locations are involved in this total?
    T - I have no idea. I don't know about the smaller banks in rural locations. It could change after 30 days if they don't get the dinar they're expecting. The rate is ridiculous if it comes out what they are saying.

    sonnayhwh :mais5: and coke for you!

    T - Looks like I'll have to do a call this afternoon so I'm cutting this call short now. The system is ready. There is a timeframe/window for this to happen (not now) and bank people have been given the time to look for. They’re not going to give them the rates in the procedures they will follow. DC has always had the floor and ceiling rates. But now the banks have those rates, too. They've gone 1 step further - they had people report at their individual locations today. I'm still hearing that nothing is stopping it at this time. All major agencies are signed off on it. I plan on talking to you this evening.

    END OF CALL.
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    TNT Tony Saturday Night CC Recorded Link with Notes by FlPatriot59 at I4U

    Post by Admin on Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:42 pm

    TNT Tony Saturday Night CC Recorded Link with Notes by FlPatriot59 at I4U

    09/21/2013


    Notes by FlPatriot59 at I4U Chat:

    [FLPatriot59] T = TONY | C = CALLER

    Tony - Good evening, late late evening. It's the first day of fall and our late night call. I'm doing this call because people have been asking all day for updates about what's happening with Okie, and give you an update. There are some changes in the processing with WF and Chase and the gov't.
    ...
    T - immediately after the RV I will give a history of what's been going on with these boards for the past 3 years. I'll do it after the fact and you can then go back and see how things progressed and see whether or not I've been telling the truth. That will give you a business lesson about who you can trust.

    T - All day long I've been getting calls from DC and overseas, what's in their news there, etc. are they being told the same things? The answer is YES - they are being told about the change that has occured iin the value of their dinar. We haven't seen it and the CBI hasn't seen it. But they're telling their people that so at some point the change has to happen.

    T - If Iraq was in charge we would have seen it already. As far as DC has told me they've been authorized for 2 weeks in a row to make an RV announcement. We know they are putting out the info and it's public.

    T - what did we learn today? This morning all the bank people (call centers, cash-out centers) were called in at 6AM and they were told to expect the rate to be live and to be busy. But instead they sat around all day playing cards, waiting.

    T - it didn't happen for a bunch of reasons. We heard it was being used as a political football. We heard it was because of the debt ceiling issue. We heard that the docs from Syria weren't signed and sealed, which is supposed to happen over the weekend.

    T - what we do know is that the system is ready. We know the banks are ready. DC folks are upset it didn't happen. It was supposed to start last night and it didn't. It is supposed to start tonight and 24-48 hours past the start we are supposed to see it. It is going, so everybody is calm. They are looking for it - should be here by Monday. The POTUS is making a speech tomorrow about the economy. May or may not be about the RV. After that we should see it - but don't be surprised if you see it before.

    T - I have some really good stuff to give you afterwards.

    T - We as intel providers have an opportunity to do the best we can for everyone we can. We do a lot of work. What I don't think is for you to be used and abused and lied to. That is crossing the line with me. As long as I've been in this, we all should have enough dinar.

    T - Okie called me after the call yesterday and was a little upset and concerned. He said those guys jumped all over him and it upset him. He is 72 years old, by the way. They continue to threaten him so he's going with me to CE and get the highest rates. When he first called me he told me that 2 of his mods met with G64 and made a deal to sign up with them. They were offered a big amount to go this place (WF) for CE

    T - For 2 of his own mods to get together with G64 and then threaten Okie if he didn't go along with them they'd make sure he would get the lowest rate or get black-listed.

    T - I'm asking the people doing this to put their names out there - not their screen names - tell you who they are and see that they are not rich. See who you're dealing with and who's doing this to a 72-year old man. Nobody cares if you're getting a higher rate, or 3-4 different levels, etc. just don't lie about. Let them reveal who they are so you can see who you're working with. I didn't like the whole thing. If I'm wrong, tell them to tell you their names. If they won't tell you because they say they're under an NDA, tell them you will not call the 800# until they tell you what they deal is.

    T - I've answered the questions now about who the 2 groups are. I told Okie he can go with me and he doesn't need to worry about it.

    T - This is going to be announced and is coming out of DC. WF, Chase, and BoA will ALL be able to offer you the same rates - just as high as any other bank - group or no group. They said they made that decision based on what's been going on with these boards.

    T - First you have to use the correct terminology. You have to ask to exchange the IQN, NOT the IQD. Based on what you say is what you'll get. If you know what the rate it, the highest rate available, they've been instructed to give that rate to you if you ask for it, regardless of whether or not you're in a group.

    T - You will know what the highest rate is so that is what you can ask for. When it comes out we'll put it out. So everybody here will have the same opportunities to get the highest rates available. They don't need your zip code and you don't have to be part of a group.

    T - there's a chance you might see something in the next 24 hours. Banks are on standby ready to come in. There will be no codes. You can call the 800# you can get yourself (not what someone else gives you). It's your choice.

    T - As of today, the trading dollars for all oil credits around the world were changed from the USD to the Yuan. We know why. We talked about it.

    T - we know it was supposed to be a 2-year process. This is the start of it. Right now it's for oil credits only. This is the start of that big picture of them becoming the global currency. Remember the 5 regions being setup by the IMF. There is a power player in each of the 5 regions that will change in early 2014.

    T - It was easier to tell you this in a call rather than in a blast. Everything is still in motion - whether it's tomorrow or Monday, the system is already started and there's no stopping it now. I want you to know the decision they made about the groups - that you don't need to be part of a group. They're offering it to anybody who knows. I'm not telling you stop doing what you were going to do. As the questions and if they won't tell you who they are, there's a problem. I know who they are and there is an FBI report on them. If it goes the wrong way it could affect you. Does it affect you? That's the key thing to remember. I don't have a group - I have 40 people who are close (family, relatives, Okie). But I'm not putting together a group. I don't want to be responsible for that many people.

    T - This is only going to be an hour call because of east coast people. So I'll take a few questions real quick.

    LIVE Q&A STARTING NOW..... C = Caller | T = Tony

    C - will you post the rates for the VND/VNN as well? T - yes, you're doing a currency exchange for the VNN and IQN.

    C - Who's the announcement coming from? T - Might be cominig from the POTUS, possibly on the Sunday AM programs. He won't blatantly say it.

    Pam - can't they ask for the vietnamese dong and iraqi dinar and not have to remember the initials? T - I was told today to use those terms. They're going to low-ball you so take this info and get the best you can.

    C - After the announcement that the rate is "live" what is the procedure for you to let us know? T - once it goes live I'll get a call from DC. I'll take to 3 different bank people who can verify the rates are live. Then I'll send out a text that the rate is "live" and that I'll talk to you in an hour. I will see what the ceiling rate is (right now over $20 and the VNN was over $2). I know if you ask for the $3 rate you'll get it.

    C - where will the bank's numbers come from? T - If we can track down the bank's numbers we wil post them. It won't be a big announcement on their websites. It won't be in plain site. Or you can call the bank and ask for the 800# for CE.

    C - How do we negotiate for the higher rates? T - they're being told if you ask for and it's a legitmate rate, they're supposed to give it to you. If you tell them you know it's the rate because someone you know cashed out, but they won't give it to you, walk out. Don't be afraid to walk out. You've got 30 days if you don't think you're being dealt with honestly. We'll work it out as a team here.

    C - Did you see LeGarde's speech? She mentioned another country coming onboard. Do you know which one it is? T - No I don't. I didn't see the speech.

    C - I do already have the WF 800# for Foreign Currency Exchange and Wealth Manager. I can send them to you. When we negotiate (even tho I'm part of the Generals, but I'm not happy with them now), can I go to all four different banks? T - yes, you can spread them out at different banks. Whichever gives you the highest rate you can use as leverage at the others and ask them what they're going to do for you.

    C - Will these rates be reflected at CBI and Forex? T - they'll have to be reflected at Forex. CBI will only show their in-country rate. What you'll see is not the "real" rate but a special circumstance rate that will eventually level off closer to the Kuwait rate. When the new rate comes out and you see what the KWD rate is, you'll know it will go within $1 of the KWD.

    C - When will the news of the Yuan hit the mainstream news? T - I won't. I was told it would take affect today, because it's been negotiated for the past 30 days. C - any news about taxes? T - no news.

    T - You want to do a CURRENCY EXCHANGE FOR THE VNN AND IQN. NOT A CASH-IN!

    C - the process, within the next 48 hours, is different. Can you tell us something about the PTB that keeps stopping it? T - I don't know that the process is different. I know the people are saying, as of Friday, that the process is in motion. Before they weren't saying that. And they are happy and confident they'll see it by Monday.

    C - When they said it couldn't be stopped, had they said this before? T - no, I didn't say it couldn't be stopped, but at this point it shouldn't be.

    C - Don't feel bad. You don't have to apologize for not having a group. Now the playing fields are leveled and the banks will all offer the high rates. Was the Parliament holiday confirmed? T - I don't know. I know somebody's listening who can answer that.

    C - will the Chinese Yuan be a good lateral move? T - yes, including Canada, China, Australia, and Brazil post-RV.

    C - what's with the 24-48 hours? Still a 72-hour waiting period? T - Don't know about that. All the pairs are done. The rates are at the banks now.

    C - Do you want to parse words with Mtn Goat about the dinar being international? T - right now we're not seeing the new rates but they did it thinking on Friday morning this would happen. The Iraqi people have been told the process is complete.

    C - Did China stop the process on Friday for Petro dollars? T - I was told they didn't like the process and some of the rates some people were getting.

    C - I'm a Canadian and need help getting to the International Chat line and in the Forum. T/Pam - we have TNT Global on the Forum but no international chat.

    T - Unfortunately this was a short call. RECAP: Everybody is great. Most people think we should see this by Monday. Bank and security personnel were there all day and were told to be on stand-by for tomorrow. Bankers called their people to come in on Monday to cash-out. We were given 3-4 reasons why it didn't go thru but it should go thru now. Listen to the POTUS speech tomorrow for key words that apply. Right before or after (Sunday evening/night) you could see something. The rates were still over $20 for the IQN and came down to $2 for the VNN. You asked about whom I was speaking about regarding Okie: it was Generals64 group that some of his own members went behind his back to join and threatened him even more. Hopefully this Monday it's all over and we can move on. If anything incredible happens I'll do a blast. Otherwise, enjoy your weekend.

    END OF CALL.

    (Note: It’s best to stay calm…Misunderstandings and Misinformation may be the cause of bad feelings and strife in the Dinar community….Read all points of view and make up your own minds….We feel that most of the Intel Providers are honestly trying to help us all. The truth will come out eventually and meanwhile we appreciate the Intel providers sharing what their sources are telling us…Thank you all)




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    KTFA's Frank26 CC Notes 09/24/2013

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    KTFA's Frank26 CC Notes

    09/24/2013


    Post By BulldogFord65 » September 24, 2013, 12:01 Hello family: here are tonight's CC notes. “But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.” Matthew 6 20-21 KJV

    Frank26 IQD Conference Call after Investment Night Monday, September 23, 2013

    IQD update

    • Report at the end of last week that it was being announced in the mosques in Iraq that the currency had revalued, but this was not correct; the announcement being made was that currency will gain in strength and value

    • Iraq is not in control of the monetary reform, the IMF is in control
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    • Many speak of “delays” to the RV, however there is no date, so there can be no delay, it’s a process

    • Frank made a post on Thursday night regarding the rumor of what was supposedly being announced in the mosques; on Tues night, I Team reported they were told to stand down until 9/20, and it was assumed they were going to guard Talibani but this is not the case; M’s political power is gone, but T will not return as president

    • Article stating Talibani losing election – how can he lose and election if he’s dead?

    • We have seen odd rates showing up on ForEx, and they are all over the place from $2.40 to $8.80

    • Frank received a call from someone stating they received a call from a friend who went to a Banco Popular location in CA and asked about the IQD; the bank manager showed the screen with a rate of $2.40 and stated they could exchange up to $15,000 USD worth of IQD;

    the person went home to get their IQD, but by the time they returned to the bank, the rate has disappeared from the screen; the bank said they see this all the time, rates pop up for currencies, then disappears; Frank has requested this person to keep checking back with this bank

    • In Frank’s opinion, all banks are not ready yet; this should not be viewed as a “delay,” this is a process, and banks are still receiving downloads of information; what was observed at Banco Popular was not unique, it’s happening at all banks

    • Please review Frank’s posts from the end of last week and this weekend

    • Another bank story: Frank reviewed that he has spoken to us about 4 banks, you know the bank order and sequence and the eschelon levels; Citibank merged with Warka

    Warka bank was created by our solidiers because the gov’t wouldn’t let them return home with IQD, so Citibank will be involved, and we have seen articles come out with mention that Citibank is involved

    • There is a bank (look at your notes for whom) that is about to train their whole front line (tellers) on foreign currency exchange

    • The front line of these banks are being repositioned; the gates are being moved to create lines just for currency exchange; this bank is retraining the front line, they have had one training class already, and they will now have a second class; the training is only 2 hours; this bank will start the second training class on Sept 25

    • Frank announced the next time frame of study is Sept 25 – Oct 2

    • It was the last Thursday of Sept when the IMF devalued the IQD

    • What is the class going to teach because they already do foreign currency exchange, so why are they going to have this training?

    • This Wed there is a 2-hour training session on foreign currency exchange

    • Look in the notes, there is a bank that stated they will begin exchanging foreign currency on Oct 2, and yet they already exchange foreign currency; would this mean that they were really saying they will be exchanging IQD on Oct 2?

    • O stated that he would begin paying down the national debt in Q3, and Q3 starts in 7 days (follows the same pattern as Clinton and the KWD – 10 years gone by, Jack Lew on staff)

    • Iran has turned their back on M

    Eagle1 joined the call at this point

    • Eagle1 reported on some information that the UST reported they have completed all of their background work for the global currency reset on Saturday; they have made 2 efforts today, but all was pulled from front screens at 6:45 PM tonight, and he does not know when we will see it

    • Frank reported that as of 2018 China will be the largest importer of oil in the world; recall that earlier this year that China announced they will convert from Australian dollar directly into the Yuan Renmimbi; study this, and also study what they are doing with their leadership

    • Frank asked the family to be strong and hold on, take everything to God in prayer

    Frank ended the call in prayer and Andy lifted the prayer with the Shofar horn blast

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    KTFA's Frank26 CC Notes 09/24/2013

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    09/24/2013




    Post By BulldogFord65 » September 24th, 2013, 9:31 pm • [Post 46] Hello Family: Here are the notes from tonight's CC; wishing you a blessed evening!

    “And turn ye not aside: for then should ye go after vain things, which cannot profit nor deliver; for they are vain. For the LORD will not forsake his people for his great name’s sake: because it hath pleased the LORD to make you his people… Only fear the LORD, and serve him in truth with all your heart: for consider how great things he hath done for you.” 1 Samuel 12: 21 - 22, 24

    Frank26 IQD Conference Call after Bible Study Tuesday, September 24, 2013

    IQD update

    • Frank began with reviewing that the bank he has been speaking of is training their front line (tellers) on foreign currency exchange – yet these bank locations already do foreign currency exchange;

    they are also physically arranging lanes/line in the bank specifically for currency exchange;
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    O has made statements that he will begin to pay down the national debt in Q3 (which begins next week) and the bank Frank has been telling us about is also saying they are going to be exchanging foreign currency by Oct 2 – yet they already exchange foreign currency

    • Sept 13 – 15 were important dates, and then Franked believed ITeam may have been protecting T, but then ITeam was told to stand down until Sept 20;

    ITeam has reported that T has been stripped of all power and authority, and ITeam was assigned to protect the VP Khodair; T will be honored and retired in a ceremony or public program, but all eyes are now on the VP Khodair who just went to NYC for meetings at the UN

    • Frank believes we will find out what the meetings in NYC were about between Sept 25 – Oct 2

    • ITeam report that there is nothing going on in Baghdad because who they are guarding is in NYC now

    • Frank recommends to review Walkingstick post #302 on yesterday’s thread, it summarizes the past 5 years of study
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    Mars joined the call at this point

    • Mars agrees that data is being downloaded to banks at this time, and the “glitch” with NASDAQ was also data download

    • Mars reported that today at the Chicago stock exchange, there was an early release of data, and the Feds are very upset that they leaked information before they were given permission;

    Mars was able to record it and capture images on the TV screen; Frank has 3 images posted in the Sept 24 thread, post #33 that show the screen shots

    • This early release of information caused heavy gold trading today

    • Mars played the audio from the broadcast of this morning’s leak

    Nova and Bluestar joined the call at this point

    • Bluestar received intel today that a VIP is coming to a particular bank tomorrow, and that the training on currency exchange is all currencies

    • Nova said the global currency reset is huge and a little scary as well, and although we live in a “free” country, this information is being withheld from the media, and the Fed is very upset at the leak by the Chicago Board of Trade

    • Nova stated that the Chicago Board of Trade is very particularly affected by the GCR

    • Mars played the news broadcast clip again: The market reaction to events on Sept 18 was unexpected and caused an increase in uncertainty of how to handle information by other news organizations;

    all news outlets signed agreement that they would not broadcast, release or diseminate the news before the FedRes gives permission; the Fed said it’s holding conversations with news orgs before the time set for the release, the reporting news org has reached out to other news agencies for clarification as well

    • Frank ended the call with singing “Amazing Grace” and Andy gave the shofar horn blast
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    TONY, TNTDINAR CC NOTES & REPLAY, 9-25-2013

    Post by Admin on Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:38 pm

    TONY, TNTDINAR CC NOTEs 9-25-2013



    Notes from FlPatriot59 at I4U:

    TONY - Good morning, TNT. It is definitely, definitely, without a doubt going to be a super fantastic day today just based on the news today and it could be out of this world today! I know you heard a lot of things yesterday and I follow what's on the boards, people going crazy, etc. This is the "adult" board and whatever is said will correct itself.

    T - I usually get the best info in the evenings. People were at the banks and they are there today. This is our new word of the day: no longer "soon" or "imminent" but, based on everyplace we call and every discussion I've had this morning is "DONE, DONE & DONE."


    T - people who were called into the banks are saying it has now been completed. There are live rates. We've talked to 3 banks and the gov't agencies and all the rates are the same, down to the penny. The exact same rates. That's a good day. Should this have gone before? Yes.

    T - I know you saw the rates were live for 15 minutes, 45 minutes, etc. we've seen this before. This was part of the problem and part of the solution. They were still catching people all the way thru yesterday. They were using the live rates to cash out friends, family, specific people. Part of the change was putting a new authority in place to make sure that doesn't happen.

    One change was leveling the playing field with the banks; another was changing the procedures so you can get a higher rate. They are there right now at cash-out locations and call centers, in FL, TN, DC, CA, TX, and AZ. Manned right now. They are waiting like we are waiting. They have been told as of this day it is done. The 3 dates I gave you were 10th, 16th and 26th. Any moment between now and then we should see it.

    T - The rates are unbelievable at the highest rates. It's been raised up because the US Gov't has negotiated it up. The more they argued they more benefit we get. That's why the 30 days is in place: nobody should be gambling with it, playing games, etc. because nowhere in your wildest dreams did we think it would get this high.

    T - Regarding the Indonesian Rupiah, the rate is $1.08 across the board. Do NOT buy anymore IQD, VND, IDR based on what I'm telling you. It will not go live until the 800#'s are issued to each bank. Each bank will have their own 800#'s issued by the UST and as soon as those are issued the rate will go live. This can happen anytime in the next hour, next day, or before the 30th. There is no reason for this to go beyond the vote debt ceiling vote this morning, which is why I'm looking at the 26th.

    T - Why are you all complaining since the rate keeps going up the longer they negotiate? There is a reason behind why it didn't go yet.

    Q&A FROM THE CHAT ROOM.......

    Q - We were told if we exchange VND to pay off reserves that WF would then give us a lower rate.

    A - How would WF know you cashed out already? The banks don't share info. The FINCen form goes to the UST for criminal tracking. Somebody's lying to you to cause you to do something they want you to do. Don't worry about this. Cash out as much dong as you want to. The people I've talked to in the banks say if you call the 800# (group number), whether you go with that group or not, you're going to be linked to that group.

    T - I don't know any gurus or intel people who are telling you this. I'd run as fast as possible from them because they don't have a clue how banking works.

    LIVE Q&A STARTING NOW... T = TONY | C = CALLER

    C - where does the 800# number come from? You? The bank? Can we exchange a few IQN first? T - the dinar is not tradable currency right now. You can buy it but not sell it back. Someone called Travelex this morning and was told it is now tradable currency and they would buy it back at $500/M. The banking system itself won't be activated until the UST issues the 800#s and they are public, so that all banks are activated at the same time. You won't be able to go to the banks and exchange until the 800#'s are issued. They have not been instructed about those 800#'s and they won't know until 20-30 minutes before it going live.

    T - Am I going to get the info? Yes. A lot of people, thru their contact, will get the info as well. When we get the call telling us it's live, we'll send out a text that the RV has happened. The text will include the current rates. Then I'm headed to the banks, then will do a TNT call.

    C - will the possible gov't shutdown affect the RV in any way?

    T - it's affecting it right now. It hasn't gone live because of the pending vote. They don't have enough votes to shut down the gov't. We are in the window and the 26th was a date I was given, which is tomorrow. Do they take it to the last minute?

    C - rate for IDN and VNN?

    T - $23 for the IDN and $3+ for the VNN. Be prepared!

    C - There's no rush to CE the VNN, right?

    T - There is no rush on the VNN but it will go up and then come down.

    NOTE: BLOG TALK RADIO IS NOT WORKING......PLEASE STAND BY.

    RADIO BACK ON AIR...

    C - Is the "leak" from the Chicago area going to affect the RV?

    T - It affected it yesterday.

    C - In your blast you said you were going to tell us "it." What is it (who is holding it up?)

    T - I was probably going to cross the line a bit since I was frustrated. The rates did go live and a lot of people were manipulating it. So they had to go back and update the system to stop this. The "technical" problems really weren't technical, but were people trying to game the system for higher rates. It was held back because of the ME situation. All of that had something to do with it - they weren't trying to frustrate us, but other people. There was a method to their madness.

    T - today we're right up to it, right where they said we would be, whether it's today or tomorrow. We have a 5-day window when this should be over (by Oct. 1). Are they going right to the last day? Last minute? Or go before that.

    T - today it's done. We wait for the 800#s to come out, then for them to flip the switch. The call centers are manned waiting for the calls but there won't be any calls until those numbers are put out and the ball gets rolling. It won't be in the news, not in the newspapers, not written across the sky. I'm going to put out the text, but my first phone call will be to Okie because he deserves it. I'd like to see him get that call before me.

    C - I'm trying to develop strategy for day 1 post RV - 2 banks said account credited within 48 hrs. of deposit. I don't want to wait for appointment to cash out small amount but don't want to cash out one note to be put in my account 2 days later. Travelex said they would only do CE up to $50K.

    T - everybody will not max out at $50K. Simply walk into the bank and you'll get the cash you want. They are expecting us within 2 hours of the release of that number. They are taking appts at call centers and are scheduling up to 11PM.

    C -On the 800#s, you said they'd be issued by the UST. Is that just for the 4 major banks?

    T - I don't know. They didn't tell me that. I don't know about the smaller banks. My understanding is that WF is the only one doing the group - they'll have 2 numbers, 1 for the group and 1 for the bank. Make sure you know which one you're calling. We will post those numbers on our website.

    C - will the rate on the IQN change during that 30-day limit?

    T - It will go up and down.

    T - we were told that if this isn't done by Oct 1 then the IMF will take over again.

    C - Once the RV happens the VNN rate will be live and I can walk in and exchange?

    T - correct. you won't need an appointment for the VNN. You can walk right in and exchange.

    C - Based on the higher rate, is it less than $30?

    T - yes.

    C - Can we negotiate above the base rate up to the UST rate?

    T - while the rate is high, it's not the ceiling. If you don't want to negotiate or you're restricted you are going to love this rate. Just go get your money and live your life. You may want to negotiate the interest rate. If the rate is over $23 how much more do you want? They will offer you privileges, unlimited card, concierge service, etc. The perks are different based on how much you have. If that rate comes out at that rate, it won't matter if they have 1 dinar note, they're going to get that rate. You won't have to argue the rate for others, since it's the base rate.

    C - In your personal opinion, when is this going to happen?

    T - I've been told tomorrow is a good day, but then so is today. I've been told that the end of the month is good due to some contracts that are in place contingent on this happening by 10/1. There are also some bank systems changes that will take place and 10/1 and this is to happen before then to help other countries qualify by the 1st.

    C - will the VNN come out over $4?

    T - not in the beginning but at some point.

    T - I see others giving you info, some after what we've said. It's confirmation. Sometimes when I see that and hear it I know you've already got it and I go on about the day. If something "super fantastic" happens I'll give a blast.

    T - just got a text that in the UK rates are live and awaiting green light. Their IQN rate is the same as ours.

    C - I was the guy who talked to Shabibi a few years ago and I've been on a lot of calls. The worst case scenario would be war-related, not financial?

    T - yes, that is what would shut it down but I don't see that at the moment because of where we are and the timeframe we're in.

    C - the rate I'm hearing from DC is $26 from one of my sources.

    T - that's pretty close to what I'm hearing.

    C - my source says it won't come out that high, it might not be the correct rate.

    T - there's always that possibility that it might not be that high..

    C - you said the announcement was made in the mosque that they were international. Were they given permission from the USA to say that?

    T - Yes, I can say that the PTB did give permission.

    T - Let me explain that is not the first time that they had been given the ok. They gave them permission and they still did not do it. With over 6K people on this call and 13-14K people on the blogtalk radio, there are similar numbers over there as well. You have to look that they are listening and sometimes we have to limit what is said. It's not the size of the dog but the fight in the dog.

    C -About the rates being live, are they at the teller screens and they can go?

    T - They have been at the teller screen but I will get a call to see if they are live.

    C - Regarding the groups, will they each be issued their own 800#?

    T - as far as I know, Okie doesn't have a group (what he told me yesterday). I don't know Loechin and haven't spoken with him. My understanding is that his group is specific to his SC group only. The only one I know is that the large group, according to WF, is that they're putting out a separate 800# for that group (Generals64).

    T - if you call the WF group 800# and you decide at your appointment you don't want to do it but want to walk in and negotiate yourself, as far as they're concerned you are still part of that group. If you don't want to participate in that group, don't call their number. People who put groups together is to offer a benefit for people who don't want to negotiate on their own.

    C - Any tax update?

    T - I don't know the situation. Initially from DC they are trying to do 1-2%. There is a bill to make it 9 3/8% but don't know. There was a group in Reno saying 11% is all you would be taxed but I have not info for that.

    C - You're an IPO guy, do you think the VNN is going down?

    T - I think the VNN, IQN and DNN will rise and come down.

    C - is the 26th related to the anniversary of Iraq's financial demise?

    T - that's what I heard.

    C - Since the VNN is already tradable, does it have to be placed in an account already open or a new one?

    T - the only one that needs to be kept separate is the IQN.

    C - Will the VNN be taxed?

    T - yes. pretty sure it will.

    C - Will the banks all have DeLarue machines?

    T - yes, 5/3, Chase, etc. will all have them.

    T-When I was in the military, a young guy. I was in Norad. We were having an IG inspection. Guy kept trying to make a phone call. Said I can't get through. I called DC and said this is a priority call and handed the guy the phone. Guy said you are either the bravest or the dumbest.

    C - I know it's going to happen. Earlier a lady asked about turning in 1000 IQN to get the appt and I had to walk away from the phone and never heard the answer.

    T - if it's one of the locations authorized to do the CE, they might go ahead and cash it out for you right then and there. At the rates we're seeing you're probably not going to be able to cash in a $100K without an appointment.


    C - This is a Sterling/DB question. When we go to pay off our reserves, have any of the banks said how they will be able to get our money from them? Will the bank get the reserves for us?

    T - no, that's not going to happen. Too much paperwork. You have to work that out with Sterling and follow their procedures. The bank is not going to get involved in you getting your reserves.

    T - If you call Sterling and tell them what you want, they will schedule an appointment to fly to your city as long as the airport is serviced by 2 or more major airlines. They will meet at your location. You can combine your reserves with others to come up with the minimum amount required for them to do that. If you have multiple reserves with different people, you can come up with a unique group name, place it in the comments section of your order, then set your appointment for all at the same time.

    C - Can we negotiate the VNN as high as the ceiling?

    T - if you know what the ceiling is, yes you can. Anytime you go over the rate they're going to have to call for approval and they're not going to do that multiple times. They have to get authorization for the rate.

    T - Something to think about. Not a fear thing. They are going to start making calls and appts within 2 hours. Start thinking about when you are going to make your appt. You come in, they will offer you something and if you don't take it and leave you will be pushed to the back so think about it.

    C - did you give the IQN rate showing on the screen?

    T - No, but somebody else did. I just told you it was higher than $23 and that guy said it was $26. VNN is almost $3.

    C - who do you think keeps stopping it or pulling it back?

    T - even this morning they told me it's gone too far to stop, but the reality is that it can be stopped. If the banks see it and every agency says they can see, and all they're waiting for is the authorization, that comes from the UST (Jack Lew) and he works for the POTUS.

    C - did that injunction affect anything?

    T - I never got that but it whatever it was (IMF Tribunal) it was denied by the IMF. At this point it doesn't matter because they're trying to get this done by 10/1.

    C - what is the Chicago leak?

    T - Someone at the CME (Chicago Mercantile Exchange) let it out that banking was going to change, but not quite the RV. Someone went in and did trades and made a $600M profit. So they had to change the procedures. That's why we saw a spike in gold yesterday.

    C - In your heart of hearts, how good do you feel about today?

    T - I feel good about today and tomorrow. It's not like they haven't said this before, but this morning when they went into their offices they were told "it's done and be ready to work extra hours and thru the weekend."

    C-We live in mountains and the bank is 2 hours away. How soon after the numbers are given out, after the RV, will it be made public?

    T- It will be made public 2 seconds after it's active. People are going to know via boards, texts, etc. All of the intel sites will probably be the first to know, versus the other 3-4 million others who don't get on calls or are in chat rooms. If you're smart, as soon as you get the info you need to be at the bank before you start calling your friends and family. I'll get the rates right away and will post them before I head to the bank. When I get back I'll do a call.

    T - Montana is going to take the page with the conference call notes on the website and change that to a bank update page. Every day she will update that page with the rates for that day, not hourly, but daily. She'll be with me the first 10 days post-RV to update the site as needed.

    C - If we are late to the party and want to be part of your group, how do we do that?

    T - I don't have a group. I'm taking the mods, some close friends, and my family with me. I'm not collecting names, emails, putting together a group. If I was doing a group I wouldn't be a hypocrite and tell you I'm not getting paid and what the restrictions are.

    C - A couple days ago you said you would give us the history of how this came about. Can you give us a brief 2 min summary?

    T - some of it you will find unbelievable. People are not what you think they are. People have been manipulated, things have happened and if things continue we will set the record straight.

    C - If it does come out at that live high rate, how can that not affect the economies negatively, ours and others around the world?

    T - It's not the same rate in every country and it's for a limited time. It depends on what people do with it. If you go to Yahoo and search Venezuela, yesterday they had an article that you couldn't get a flight out and the planes were leaving half empty. People were buying seats but not leaving. They were sending their credit cards out of the country because they could exchange 6 to 1. Every day. A whole lot of people were getting rich. Now prices are going up.

    T - Same for us. People have never had that much money before and they'll go out and spend it all. People will have jobs, and there will be a battle of "made in America" vs. China. This is going to stimulate our economy. It's not going to negatively affect us.

    C - Regarding holdups, only one person can say "push the button." Until those PTB are satisfied they could still hold it up. Do you think we're past that stage?

    T - I know it takes 3 signatures to start it and 3 to stop it. All the power is not in one man's hand. We don't have a dictator. All 3 have to sign off on it. My understanding is that it is a "go" so unless all 3 of them say something to stop it, it's a go. But I don't see anything critical to cause that to happen. Everyone is on the same page: new laws going into place on Oct.1, new money must be backed with something, needs an operational timeframe for different things to occur. It could happen in the next 2 hours, tomorrow, by Friday, but I think it will happen by Oct. 1.

    T - We're at the end of the call. Today is super fantastic! Everybody said this morning it's DONE, DONE, DONE. Multiple banks are seeing the exact numbers. If it comes out at these numbers you'll be the happiest people on earth. We went over a hurdle today (Senate vote 100-0), debt ceiling, etc. I don't see any other hurdles to jump over but there are some deadlines by the 1st and others on the 8th. I think it's a great, great day. We could now see this at any moment. If they come back and tell me it's undone, I'll do a blast. But they do have a time for it today. Now, since the system has been upgraded, it can actually go. If I was you, I wouldn't do anymore reserves or buy anymore. Instead, I'd get ready. Make sure you know what you're going to do right afterwards. Think about before you start buying. I will put out some type of blast tonight. Have a great day.

    END OF CALL.



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    StraightTalkChat CC Wed. Night Notes by FlPatriot9 at I4U 09/25/2013

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    StraightTalkChat CC Wed. Night Notes by FlPatriot9 at I4U

    09/25/2013


    [FLPatriot59] I will be transcribing the StraightTalkChat Call with 30MDinar. PLEASE STAND BY.....

    30MDINAR @ 8:08 PM EDT - 9/25/13 - Welcome everyone connected to us thru the many bridge lines around the community. Both the call and chat room are open to everyone.

    30M - We are not here to take you on an emotional roller coaster ride. I check with multiple sources before I share anything with the community. The only guarantee you have is when you walk out of the exchange facility with deposit receipt in hand.

    30M - the only request I have is that you transcribe what I say verbatim. If you quote 30M please do so accurately. Persons took words and twisted them and went on two different conference calls into the community and that caused a stir.
    ....
    Read More Link on Right
    30M - as you know if you were with us yesterday we did 3 updates at 7PM, 10PM and 12AM EDT. Also in the early morning hours myself and several others engaged in an enlightening conversations where some additional bombshells were revealed. In each of these incidents the info wasn't anything that came from another call.

    We have our own sources who are in high places. Today I heard numerous reports that the intel we shared yesterday was put out today. As you know, I don't put anything out unless I receive multiple confirmations personally.

    30M - here's what I heard today. This was supposed to happen at 5AM this morning. However, there are windows that have been put out intentionally, even though this wasn't going to go thru those specific windows. I don't want to get into specifics, but I allluded yesterday to arrests.

    Our IMF & UST contacts confirmed that it's done.

    Earlier this afternoon confimed that a personal friend walked into a small regional bank and asked about the IQN. He was asked to take a seat and they would speak with him. He was in the bank for 40 minutes and left at closing time. While he was there we had text access to him and we fed him text questions.

    One was "can you help me exchange today?" He was asked how long are you in town and can you come back. He was told "we cannot exchange you today but we may be able to exchange you tomorrow."

    30M - I can't get into details right now but we will need to make a careful, calculated decisuion when exchanging. All the sources I'm speaking with are confident we will be in the banks this week.

    They are saying it should be pushed through tonight. It was put out today, but I opted to protect my sources why it didn't happen yet. There are huge implications if it doesn't happen and this is in our favor.

    Live rates are waiting to be pushed to the teller screens. A certain group is reporting they have negotiated a rate above the ceiling rate and that may not be in your best interest.

    30M - yesterday I posed the question "why were 198 countries at the UN this week?" Today I have a clue to that: would you show up for the reading of the will?

    I have multiple rates for the IQN and VNN. These numbers have been confirmed down to the penny and the spreads are higher than anything I've heard put out today. I stand very confident on these rates because they have not changed in several days. Sources confirmed by giving me the rate, not visa versa.

    30M - the important thing to remember is that many are hurting and are ready for this to be over. Again, I want to remind you not to buy currency because of what you hear in these calls and on these chat boards. Only buy what you can that won't affect your personal finances.

    30M - Yesterday a chat room shared a story about a neighbor who has a WF bank manager as his neighbor. He asked him about the dinar and the bank manager called him and said "this will be done this week."

    I have a source who will be notified within 2 hours of the RV and I will share it with you immediately. Keep your prayers going - this thing is on its way to us and we could literally wake up to it in the morning. We should see it by Saturday, at the latest.

    30M - we will be here post-RV for many years to come. We have a lot of special speakers lined up to help you, people who are licensed professionals in good standing who can help you with the questions you have.

    30M - Hold on because if you like what you're seeing now you'll love what we're building for post-RV. 30M does not make a penny of anything from the chats and calls. We have a team of pastors - 20+ - who are designated with a gold icon in the chat room. We have over 85 topical chat rooms to discuss what you're interested in chatting. You are allowed to bring in all intel from the community as long as you cite the source.

    30M - God bless and thanks for listening. Let's see what unfolds into the early morning hours with our blessing. END OF INTEL CALL.


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    TNT Tony Friday CC Recorded Link and Notes from FlPatriot59 at I4U 09/27/2013

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    TNT Tony Friday CC Notes from FlPatriot59 at I4U

    09/27/2013




    Notes by FlPatriot59 at I4U:

    TNT CALL STARTING NOW..... T = TONY | C = CALLER

    ALL LINES ARE FULL OR FROZEN......

    TONY - Good morning, TNT! Let's get started today, Sept. 27, 2013. I looked at the questions on TNT and there are like 90 of them. So instead I'm going to answer the emailed questions instead.

    T - Let's first get explanations out of the way. Before I get into it, here's the info. For a long time we have been getting info ahead of most people. Sometimes days, weeks ahead. The other boards have ridiculed it, laughed at it, then a day or week later they catch up. So this won't be the first time. I'm saying this because of the threads about what others are saying about me - it doesn't bother me so don't let it bother you. In the end the truth will be known.
    ....
    T - None of them will be able to go back and take back what they said about us in 2014, 2015, etc. I am confident of our sources.

    T - Everything is done and I did get confirmation from DC that this was signed off by the POTUS this week and it's good to go, make it happen. IMF, BIS, etc. has signed off on it. Right now, even yesterday in DC, there is no political hold-up. It's time to go. We still don't know the moment yet.

    T - I mentioned on Wednesday about the banks catching people. Bankers were trying to do things for their family, friends, etc. and they got caught. A new security system was put in place Wed. PM and re-ran the system yesterday and the screens went blank and they brought them back up with the new security features a region at a time so it could be tested. Started in the SE, NE, west coast, then completed at 1AM in the morning yesterday.

    T - the system was ready to go. The next part of the system, now that that's done and secure, is the 800#s. Those come from the UST, but they have to work with and in conjunction with others. That's where they ran into a problem. The procedures everyone was getting weren't lining up for everyone. Yesterday that was a problem and it was scheduled to go 3 times. We got within a couple hours, then 30 minutes, then it still didn't work and they were trying to get it done before the banks closed and it didn't make. Now they're trying to get it done after the banks close. We'll see if they made it today.

    T - It's called "macros" to make things automatic so steps can't be skipped from one region to another. Then they have to make sure each region has it right again so it's all uniform. Some of you don't want to hear that, but it's a little more complicated. The good thing is that there is a time scheduled for today. The number are still the same: $25.87 / $2.67 / $1.08. The other countries showing rates are showing USD/IQD not IQD to their country's rates. That lets us know it's one more level completed.

    T - We did hear that contractors, per people in DC who run the companies in Iraq, that their employees were exchanging for the $25.87. That started yesteday over there. I did hear that people of privilege were cashed out at a special bank at $25.87. So that's an actual rate that's been paid out the past 2 days. The bank people went in this morning and were told if it didn't happen by 9AM this morning on the east coast that they could go home and rest before coming back. That didn't happen. They were called in to stay and are fully-manned for today. They were told they'd be working all weekends. I also told you: all banks open or all banks closed. There's only a window of time when that happens.

    T - the money's still there. The people are still there. It's ready to go.

    Q&A STARTING NOW.....VIA EMAIL

    Q - why should I get a CCC from the bank? A - if you're trying to transfer $ people question where the funds came from if it's bank to bank, bank to escrow company, etc. I'd get a min. 20 copies.

    Q - If I get an NIB for the IQN how soon should I get a 2nd account to sweep all money? A - I'll do it that day. Never use the original account online or with a card.

    Q - What about HR77 in Congress taking effect on 12/31/13? A - Doesn't really apply since your money will already be transferred by then. If you wait until Jan to exchange you'll get a MUCH lower rate.

    [FLPatriot59] Q - if we haven't received 800#s can the POTUS take back the authorization? A - anything can happen. But it takes 3 signatures to push it forward and it will take 3 signatures to rescind it. I don't think this will be part of the debt ceiling debate, which is why they're pushing to get this done by Monday.

    Q - if the rates are at the teller screens, why can't we go to the bank? A - there is a method to the madness and they need to know how many people are coming into the banks. They want it to be orderly. They've worked it out and there is a plan. It's not simple dealing with 4-5M people who want to go to the bank today. That's not going to happen. It's not just about you!

    Q - I hear the release won't happen until the new $100 bill is out? A - why would we need to wait for the RV? The GCR has nothing to do with the new $100 bill coming out? The new bill still says Federal Reserve on it. The world isn't going to change on Oct. 8 when that new bill comes out. It's not like our IQD exchange will be issued in $100 bills.

    Q - do we have to bring our receipts to the bank? A - it's a currency exchange and they don't care. However, if you exchange with a dealer you will need to show receipts for the paper trail. They need to report their paperwork.

    Q - What about spreads at the bank? A - you can negotiate your spread fees. They shouldn't charge you to give them money so they can make money on it.

    Q - Will we be able to walk into a bank and exchange a small IQN note? A - don't know what the procedures are. You can always exchange an VNN. I'll let you know when I find out.

    Q - Will there be a different tax based on the IQN rate? A - I don't know what the point is. I heard it coming out of DC that there may be a different tax bracket based on the exchange rate. But I don't have a full explanation for it. I did hear it and that those who got greedy would pay more taxes than those who took the basic rate. The rate is $25.87 - that's the base rate and you will be able to go to any bank and get that rate. Anything above that is taxed differently. I don't think they've actually finalized what that will be

    Q - Will only the big 4 banks be the only ones exchanging? What about the little mom & pop banks? A - They're still in the game. The 800# will help refer you to the bank in your region based on your zip code and other factors. Remember they just added M&P's a little over a month ago. So they had to re-write software, etc.

    LIVE CALL-IN Q&A STARTING NOW........ C = CALLER | T = TONY

    C - If all banks need to be open, I'm on the east coast then with Hawaii there's only a 2-hour window? T - Yes, to activate it that's true but all banks will be open until 11PM. So our next window is after 3PM EDT.

    C - so our window here on the east coast is 3-6PM EDT? T - If it doesn't go between 3 & 5 PM EST then the next window is after 11PM eastern. All they have to do is activate it when all are either closed or open. Then it will run 24 hours a day. So no RV between 5PM and 11PM EST.

    C - what are they saying in the mosques today in Iraq? T - I don't know. Waiting to see what they're saying on TV. On Wednesday they were talking about it but not today. I feel very confident in that info about the contractors cashing out at $25.87.

    CALLER IS ASKING TONY ABOUT HIS CHOICE IN CIGARS.

    C - can I fly to Iraq and contact a contractor over there and get a high rate? T - no, you can't take IQN into Iraq. But even if you did you can't get it out of Iraq.

    C - the 10-Year Anniversary was on 9/26. Did the 30-day countdown start yesterday? T - no, the countdown will not start until we (everyone) start going to the banks. They let others CE because they were certain we would CE yesterday because it was scheduled for it to happen.

    C - is the IMF push at 3.44 still in play by Saturday? T - I heard they have until Monday, 9/30. But they want the higher rate, too. It's been signed off which is what they needed to see. The banking system is now protected and it's down to procedures.

    C - You mentioned 3 people required, is the 3rd person LeGarde? T - no, it's 3 people in the US Govt

    C - Do you recommend that we take an attorney with us to make sure the doc is correct? T - at $25.87 I can exchange my money - I don't need help with this basic rate. Anything above that, I absolutely would, especially if I have to sign something. If you're going to sign NDAs, then yes.

    C - Could this happen on a Saturday if it doesn't happen today? T - I think it could happen on a Saturday or a Sunday. We're just waiting for the numbers. Everything else is done.

    C - do you know about a 3rd rate - base, ceiling, 3rd rate? T - I'm sure there are rates in between you can negotiate. C - I'm talking about a rate above the $25.87? T - Yes, there is a ceiling above that rate. Some of the people I talk to would get mad if I told you the rate above the ceiling. On Wed. I got from DC "don't do that rate" because it could almost triple your taxes. That rate was reserved for special people and circumstances. They highly recommended not to take that rate. There are consequences with everything. I heard they wanted to do 1-2% by the end of the year, then I heard they put in a bill to do 9.38% but that has not passed yet. I'm hearing the top rate would trigger 40% or more.

    T - I know a little about taxes and I know a lot about not paying taxes. LOL. I heard about an international attorney who wanted to sue the US Gov't to not pay taxes. He can sue all he wants but you'll be the one going to jail. So be smart! They've hired 50K new folks at the IRS, so be smart.

    C - I was told all the UST people were sent home. They told them it would only happen on Tues/Wed/Thurs. T - Many people felt that was the plan. But the reality is that right now they don't care about all of that. When this is able to go they want to push it thru.

    T - there's a lot of chatter on the boards about banks calling in their people and that it doesn't make sense. They've been doing this for over a year at the direction of the UST. It's part of the process for various reasons to catch people. There are designated cash-in locations, people are there. People are at the call centers. They are there and they are tired and frustrated just like us, even though they are getting paid overtime.

    T - Most of the stuff you've been told was way behind. We've been doing this for 2 years and they always catch up sooner or later with what we're being told and what we're saying.

    C - so the banks have to be all open or all closed? T - Correct. But we don't know if that includes Hawaii. But the next window is after 3PM EST today.

    T - if you haven't noticed lately, mods getting frustrated. small # of mods and 18K of you. A lot of people are getting permanently banned. It's not that you can't have your opinion but you don't have to be confrontational. It makes no sense to me for people coming here from other sites who don't want to hear what we have to say but now come here to hear what I'm saying. They get the updated info and then come here and complain when they only signed up here two days ago. Either you want to see and discuss, or waste your and everyone else' time. We appreciate the mods.

    C - this should all be done by the 1st? T - yes, this should all be done prior to the 1st, hopefully today if not tomorrow. There is a big push for today.

    C - I'm in Canada and I called the Michigan numbers for banks and they didn't know what I was talking about (Chase, WF, BoA). Do I just wait for the 800#? T - You have to wait for the 800# and give them a zip code in Michigan. Your biggest problem is how to get across the border with the revalued currency. I would visit our International Forum and ask those questions.

    T - Just got word from contractors that payments to contractors have been put on hold until our release.

    C - Is the Indonesian Rupiah changing names to IDN? T - yes.

    C - Did you say not to move our money for 6 months? T - No, I didn't say that. When you go in alone and make your deposit, it's your money and you can spend it right away. But if you're in a group there may be some restrictions that would require you to leave it for a period of time.

    C - So you'll let us know about whether or not to negotiate rates that may put us in a dangerous tax situation? T - They're just saying that different tax rates may apply if you go so far over the $25. I don't know where that stops. But at the max rate you'll be bumped into a higher tax rate.

    C - Regarding the dealers, is it okay to wire from them or pick it up? T - I'm sure it's okay. If you're going to the bank or to the dealer, why go thru all that negotiations if the rates are the same. I'd go online and create a sell order and have the funds wired to your account. Or once your money get there go into the bank and move (remember there may be a 30-day restriction on moving over $500K). You don't have to get everything done on the first day.

    C - When the 800#'s come out can you go to a cashout center not near your home? T - They will ask you the info and zip code of the area where you want to go.

    C - I'm new to this investment (my dinar is under my mattress) and want to know if you have 1,000 dinar and the rate comes in at $25 will that mean I made $25,000? T - yes. And how does it feel to be sleeping on thousands of $ each night?

    C - Do you recommend trust accounts? T - Yes, trust accounts and foundations are the way I will go. Remember that Bil Gates had $120B when the IRS came after him. Now he only has $60B. The rest was put into the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. The gov't can't touch that. If you can set it up ahead of time, that's better but everything doesn't have to be done the first day. You'll have days and weeks to move your $ over to your trust accounts and foundations. I'd recommend you put your property, cars, etc. in separate trusts (segregation of assets). That way if someone comes after you they can't take everything you have.

    TONY & PAM DISCUSSING CHAT ROOM HOUSEKEEPING.......

    C - I'm relatively new and have been researching, reading thru Dinar Recaps archives, reading the guru's postings. Some of the postings from 2011 are verbatim to what's happening now (except the rates have changed). Why is this time in 2013 any different than what was said in 2011? T - why did you get into this? Somebody had to convince you. What was the deciding factor for you? C - it was a profit-creating venture and I got in for the same reason as you. I looked at people I respect and have a good track record at investing, knowing it could be a profit or loss. The cost-risk analysis didn't take a brain surgeon. A lot of the posts in 2011 are exactly what we're seeing now (not so much in 2012). What's different?

    T - What I don't know is that Dinar Recaps has been following me all this time (3 years' worth). But that's okay. I would have researched this before getting involved. What makes it different? We have a lot more knowledge than we did. Our level of intelligence has grown since then. As we discover those things our puzzle becomes more complete. There have always been pieces of the puzzle but now it's becoming more complete. Our info is clearer. We know laws have been passed because we know people who were in the room when it happened. We know the banking system has been overhauled. We know how many black SUVs were in the airport; we know how many palates and how much was on each palate. We know about the lower denoms because I've seen the invoice. There is a lot of things that have grown over a period of years to put us in the position we are in now.

    C -What about silver? T - Rayren has been trading silver for 20 years and he can tell he you he's made a whole lot of money. But I'm putting my money in money - I don't do long-term. The bigger dollars are in short-term.

    C - Please explain double-dipping. T - Here's the problem: I could tell you steps 1-10 and if you miss one of the steps in between you can lose everything you have. Don't do it if you don't know how. I have a large threshold for pain so if I lose it I know how to get it back.

    C - I put my dinar on layway for 45 days and they give you 7 days to put the 5% down. If it RV's by my birthday Oct 1., say it goes before the 7 days and I got some money that I cashed in from IQN and went and put it to pay my 5% on my layaway, is that double dipping? T - if you haven't made the 5% down payment before it RVs you'll lose that layawy. Even if you put in an order today and the date stamped is paid today, they will keep it going. Best way to do it if your layaway runs out today and it Rv's today and you haven't put the money in to pay it off or roll over, what you need to do is put in a sale order.

    C - Is the state where you pay the taxes predicated on the address on your driver's license or where you cash out? T - It's based on where your legal residence is located, not where you cash out.

    C - How close will Sterling get to that $25.87 rate? T - that is the base rate at every bank, so it has to be the UST rate, especially if that's the rate being paid yesterday in Iraq. The only difference between Sterling and the bank is their ability to negotiate. At that rate I don't even think you'll want to negotiate.

    C - Does that include the VND as well? T - yes. the base rate will come out the same. Make your appointment and have your strategy in place.

    C - I got an email about a seminar for religious or Christian people saying you don't have to pay taxes on foreign currency exchanges. That is ridiculous and you will go to jail! And people jumping from site to site have great potential to become pillars of salt for looking back.

    C - Is there a limit to the amount of a cashier's check? T - Not that I know about. If you get a cashier's check what are you going to do with it? You're going to a bank! You going to carry around a cashier's check?

    C - I bought all my currency from a trade and it was sent with a Certificate of Authenticity. I shouldn't have any problems at the bank, right? T - Anyone can print out a certificate so that doesn't make it genuine. If your currency is not real with a certicate, it won't be real without one. If it's not real the FBI will get involved.

    ne. If it's not real the FBI will get involved.

    TONY - okay, it's been 2 hours. Hopefully we'll do a call this evening. It will not be before 3PM. We'll see what happens. They're in place and ready to go. They're telling their people it's done. There are no political hold-ups. At any moment, any day we should have a superfantastic day or weekend. That's what they're pushing to happen. Don't listen to anyone telling you November, next year, 2 years from now. I have it from the highest levels and 3-letter agencies they are trying to get it done right now. We can't get any closer to it actually happpening than where we are right now. Have a great day!

    END OF CALL.

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    TONY, TNTDINAR CC NOTES & REPLAY, 9-30-2013

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    TONY, TNTDINAR CC NOTES & REPLAY, 9-30-2013

    REPLAY 805-399-1500 FREE end_of_the_skype_highlighting 409029#


    (Call starts about 1-2 minutes into recording_

    Notes by FlPatriot59 at I4U Chat:

    T = TONY | C = CALLER

    Tony - Good morning, TNT! It's Monday, Sept. 30, 2013. This is not the ghost of Tony speaking, this is actually Tony speaking. Pam sent me a bunch of questions I'll try and go thru.

    T - I got some info about what's supposed to go on today, I have the rates on the boards, I have people all over the world expecting it today. If it doesn't happen, it won't be a pretty picture but we'll cross that bridge if we get there.

    T - I talked to people over the weekend who told me they like the way we present things here. I tell them "I didn't ask for this or even wanted to do this." It became a sense of responsibilty and people want to hear the info. I've seen people being taken advantage of, as I've tried to warn you over the years. It's not always what people say, it's what they DON'T say.

    T - This is a big thing and you will learn as you develop friendships and trust. If I don't say it or don't get involved in it there's a reason for it. I see something that tells me "don't do that." There's a reason - it's not right to me, the numbers don't add up, etc. it's just not for me.

    T - Over time you'll go back and look at things that I wasn't involved in, endorsed, and the light will clearly shine and you'll think "that's why he didn't do it." I've been told to tell you some things and I'll tell you what I think about it. People say things on other calls, behind closed doors, and people don't think I'll find out. Even now I'm trying to tell things about the cash-out procedures and groups - not all groups. Some are structured the way they should be.

    T - What you should care about is your money, your investment and are you being treated fairly by these people? I don't have a problem with honesty. I get calls and I laugh at it. For instance, last week a caller called in about 2 years ago, what happened, etc. I have no fear about answering those questions. I don't have a problem giving an honest answer to an honest question. I know what I'm going to do with my money, increase it, multiply it, etc. I'm not getting paid a dime for these calls of from any of the dealers. No agreement to get paid either before or after the fact. Not one bank has agreed to pay me anything to direct me to them.

    T - The reason I'm bringing this up is because a bunch of people sent out stuff about the groups. I said "let it die." Then yesterday I got a call that I died. An email was floating around, people were getting upset, etc. Now they've lowered themselves to say that I'm dead. (Also, I'm not getting paid anything from BlogTalk Radio or FreeConference Call - there is no revenue there. I don't even know how to do that.) So, over the weekend I supposedly died. Then we heard people from other sites were going to call in here and disrupt the call like they did the last call. I don't know why people do this - they must be mad that I'm giving you the info and letting you think for yourself.

    T - The RV is still going. People are at the banks right now. Some went in this morning and others aren't going in until 3PM EST today. There are 2 teams out there: those that believe we should see the RV before the vote and those who believe it will be after the vote. But most think it will happen today - at least before midnight. There are global events that must be live before Oct 1 and it must be "live" before that. If not, there's going to be a lot of scrambling tomorrow to recover 10 years of work.

    T - The good thing about it is they're trying to get it done today, one way or another. The rate is still $25.87 and 2.67, which is what's being seen on the screens. These should hold based on what we're seeing and being told. For their purposes, the RV did occur and people were getting paid out in Iraq and in DC until the announcement wasn't being made and it stopped. They did pay them out at the $25.87 rate, no matter what people are telling you. I think it's a crazy rate. I'll tell you why I believe the rates: I've gotten info from DC that at the $25.87, the most tax you should have to pay is 11% if it's approved. I got this directly from the people who should know and they're advising people and asking me to let it be known.

    T - Months ago I told you they were trying to do a 1-2% by the end of the year. Then there was a 9 3/8% that's not approved. Then at $25.87 they said the tax should be 11%. Anything above that rate - if you go to the ceiling rate - they're arguing about now making your tax at 55%. I don't know what the cutoff is, we're trying to find that out now. Nothing is in stone yet, but I'm making you aware of what they're talking about. That's why I said keep 50% aside for taxes. I don't want to tell you these rates and then you not exchange at the higher rate and then the law doesn't pass. That's a decision you have to make based on the fact that you have the info. It's not law yet. Right now, get your money and worry about the rest later.

    T - You have to decide what's best for you and how you plan to operate with this. I want you to be aware of the entire picture. Many of you will have to decide if that $25.87 is enough. Here's a question: how can that tax rate be applied to this currency and not the others? Because this currency wasn't tradeable it may be treated differently for tax purposes. This is what they're looking at for November. If you spend all your money by then you'll regret it for the rest of your life. All the banks we talked to you this morning have the exact same rate. So you don't have to worry about getting an email. The 800# were received by the banks over the weekend and should be released sometime today.

    T - We are at a critical point right now and I can't say whether or not the vote will play a part in it. At 2PM EST they're going to vote and send it back and forth. This could go on until midnight.

    T - Things did happen in Panama. People moved money there, went there and deposited money there. Yes, they did name names and people will be indicted and removed, bank accounts frozen for quite a few gov't officials. An agreement was made over the weekend that will help out with the release pertaining to Panama. Too many things are happening today, other countries are here today to try and push this through today by midnight.

    T - They're saying everybody is excited and ready to go. We just have to wait until 2PM and see what happens. It's getting ready to happen so we'll see.

    CALL DROPPED ..... PLEASE STAND BY......

    Q&A FROM CHAT ROOM NOW:

    Q - will the gov't shutdown stop the RV?
    A - you need 3 signatures to stop it.

    Q - if this doesn't happen before Oct. 2 will it happen? Please be honest.
    A - It will be harder because agreements will expire.

    Q - after 30 days is up can we not exchange our 3-zero notes?
    A - I know they're trying to cut it all off, but the 30 days is still there. It's not about us - within 30 days they'll have enough money and you're not the priority. If you don't CE within that 30 days they'll figure you're speculating.

    Q - will we miss out on the $25.87 rate if we don't CE right away?
    A - I will give you the timeframe after the announcement is made. There are 2 ways to look at it: first, the $25.87 may hold for the 1st 4-5 days. As we get ours sold the hedge fund people could start buying since they'll know the ceiling. I don't think they can buy as quickly as we can sell. If it's a free float, there are still a lot of unanswered questions - but this is what is being discussed in DC right now.

    Q - what are we looking at for the ceiling rates?
    A - If on Day 1 it comes out and I tell you the ceiling rate, don't you think they will change it? They absolutely will. They could drop it $3 in one day and everybody will lose money because you waited for the higher rate. There are reasons you don't get specific but instead give a range. If I was giving it to all of you don't you think the hedge fund managers would find out, too?

    Q - Is there something within the gov't that can hold it up?
    A - yes, there are those same 3 signatures but we won't know until midnight tonight. We're at that point.

    "LIVE" Q & A NOW..... C = CALLER | T = TONY

    C - please clarify what you said "go get your money." It could actually go down to 3.44, right?
    T - It could go down because this current rate is momentary and is not permanent. It's an opening rate just like an IPO. The best option for you might be to take the $25.87 rate and not gamble. Even if the gov't takes 50% it's a win/win.

    T - take your time and think this out and you'll come out with the best situation for you. I talked with Frank this morning and they said they absolutely will exchange any currency for other currency or precious metals. There is another law currently being debated (HR77) that says no taxes from all foreign currency exchange. But they're trying to get this tax now. But the problem is that if you hold your CE until after this passes on 1/1/14 the high rate of $25.87 will be gone. You can always take that dinar and exchange it into Euro, Rupees, CND, etc., but remember you're getting their rate and not our rate.

    C - So you're saying that between now (2PM) and midnight we should see something, right? What about that ugly bridge we don't want to talk about?
    T - over the weekend people flew here to help avoid the ugle thing from happening. I'm sure we'll know tomorrow if we don't know by midnight. Let's hope we don't get to that bridge.

    C - Is the third person Bernanke?
    T - no.

    C - In your blast you said something about an announcement?
    T - there is not going to be a public announcement.

    C - regarding the taxes, please clarify the rates. If I ask for $1 over that $25.87 street rate will that extra $1 be taxed at the 55%?
    T - I don't know. It's being worked on right now.

    C - I had to think "follow the money" to ask who benefits from this campaign - trying to confuse us ?? the bankers ?? they will make the spread??
    T - I'm getting this info from the gov't, not the banks. They're telling me what's being submitted and what bill they are looking to put out there. Will this cover the new gov't programs and will we have a surplus and who decides where that gets spent. This portion is not about the banks.

    C - Is the oil credit deal only for low denom or will I get $25.87 for my 500 note?
    T - it's going to drop rapidly before 3 months. It's going to be the market rate and we don't know what's going to happen in the Middle East in the future.

    C - What's going to happen tomorrow morning and it hasn't RVd?
    T - We're going to have an absolute mess. They don't know what will happen, i.e., contracts need to be changed, how does it affect the world's economy, do they have to go back to the drawing board, etc.? There is a whole scenario no one is talking about. I have every indication they will pull this off today because no one wants to cross that bridge. All of the agencies have been notified but until it happens, we won't know.

    C - What else could these people possibly want that is holding this up?
    T - don't know, maybe $26.87?

    C - Will the banks be able to tell us the tax rate?
    T - no, they want know until it becomes law. They won't be able to tell the ceiling rate because they won't know. You should ask for something, they make a phone call, and get an authorization to give it to you.

    C - How does this tax scenario apply to the VND?
    T - I'm hearing it's not going to because it's already tradable. If I'm going to gamble with one that is the one I'd go with.

    C - How confident are you about today?
    T - I feel good about it. Everybody at every level thinks this has to be done by midnight tonight. I'm hoping that common sense prevails, that the contracts prevail. It's not about the RV itself. It's about actually bringing it public to us. The RV happened last week when docs were signed. If not you wouldn't have seen the vote at the UN and the announcement that Iraq had been released from Chapter 7. Now they are part of the WTO. They've met their qualifications.

    C - Why is this being held back?
    T - Somebody is still using it as leverage to get something. I don't know what it is. We could say it's related to what is going on today, i.e., funding, the vote, etc. Think about this way: let's say the RV happened last month and the gov't is fully funded, would we be talking about a gov't shutdown right now? No. There would not be a vote. And there would not be a discussion about funding Obamacare. So, who is holding it for leverage? The whole world is waiting on the US.

    T - Iraq has done everything they need to do. They're waiting for it to go public like we are. Why would they keep putting it on their public TV announcing it's done, etc. Why would they do that? As far as we are concerned, there is absolutely no concern for us. We are a bi-product of this and will reap the benefits. Everyone should be living their lives, going on as usual. We can't blame them for that - it's not about us.

    C - I'm watching C-Span and the Senate just delayed spending and sent it back to the House. What does this mean?
    T - This will go back and forth all day until midnight. If it doesn't happen the gov't will shut down tomorrow.

    C - How could contractors in Iraq get this rate if there's no UST in Iraq?
    T - When we cash where do we go? To the bank. Contractors in the ME bank on the base or US Embassy, and those are attached to the UST. Every US base in the world has US banks on-base tied to the UST. If they go off-base, they have to have a letter or a dual-citizenship if they want to use a non-US bank.

    C - Have you confirmed with Frank at Sterling/DB about matching the bank rate?
    T - Frank doesn't know what he's going to offer until the CBI puts up their rate. It will be the market rate - he is not in a position to pay a higher rate, just the market rate.

    C - Can we exchange from dinar to foreign currencies at the bank?
    T - Yes, I would think so. You have to ask them. Just because about the rates. The IQD/KWD will not be the same rate, for example.

    C - In terms of midnight or today, can we bank today if it happens today?
    T - As of last week, we heard that they wanted to get people in the banks within 2 hours of it going live. Then later we heard they changed that to us banking the next morning after it goes live.

    QUICK TONY BREAK.....PLEASE STAND BY......

    C - I'm curious about that $25.87 rate. Was any consideration given that this will not hold for the 30 days?
    T - How would that work on the Forex market or on the global market with the hedge fund markets, etc.? Not going to happen.

    C - Regarding the meetings today, can you share what those meetings are?
    T - They are in DC with people who originally put the plan together who are insisting this happens today and making sure everybody understands the ramifications of what will occur if it doesn't happen today.

    C - I heard IMF had taken over process on Sept 5th. Accurate? Penalties if US was at fault for IMF to take over.
    T - If the IMF, UN did take over we wouldn't still be waiting for announcement or activation. They could have done that globally already.

    C - If the urgency is today, are we waiting for the banks to be open or closed?
    T - We have another 28 minutes before all banks are open. They already missed the "before the vote" timeframe. If they're saying before midnight I don't think they really care.

    CALLER ASKING ABOUT POST-RV SEMINARS AT VEGAS MEETING.

    C - I'm confused. You said hold on to it until Jan. 2014 and we would miss the 30 days.
    T - I didn't say hold it until 1/1/14. You have 30 days to get the highest rate. Your options are: do I cash out within 30 days and get as much as I can, or do I put it in a MCA and then cash it out in January when the rate could be different (as well as the tax liability)? Those are options - I'm not telling anybody to hold anything!

    C - When you're quoted the rate by the banks, are they actually seeing that rate or are they converting it from something?
    T - No, they're actually seeing that rate. We have people who are seeing actual numbers who are in the banking industry. We are getting from DC, from the 3-letter agencies that these are the laws being addressed at these rates.

    C - Since we know the law-makers hold IQD, won't these tax laws apply to them as well?
    T - Don't know. They're writing the laws and also writing the tax loopholes.

    C - If it RVs tomorrow, the tax law could go in effect the next day? Couldn't they come out in March 2014?
    T - Exactly, that's why I said to set aside 50% until it happens so you don't regret it. The simplest thing is to take the $25.87.

    C - You sang "Happy Birthday" to Pam and I wanted to tell you "don't quit your day job."
    T - My wife tells me I'm tone deaf.

    C - I'm not understanding why, with this info about the rates, the more info that's out, the more we can buy. Is this what they want?
    T - That's a valid point. I've known for years that they are listening to our calls. I've gotten calls from the agencies that tell me this is a safe place to get out the truth. Others have an agenda. I got a call last week from people related to the Chinese, that they know what's being said here. They made some changes (that every bank has the $25.87 rate) because of the info being given out and being shared with honesty and no agenda. Do they want this info put out? Yes. This will not be on the 6 o'clock news. Do they want you to buy dinars? Yes, because if they didn't want that to happen they would have cancelled 13303. This way they don't have to give out stimulus packages. You're going to spend and start new businesses.

    T - they want to broaden the base and make it a more knowledgeable base. They put protections in place at the banks for you. I'm getting this info from bank insiders, that the warning is there that there will be abuses from the bankers on us.

    C - So aren't the banks at risk of litigation for telling everybody it's a scam?
    T - they won't be open to litigation because until it happens it can go either way. The moment it happens, though, that will all change. A judge could come in and void all lawsuits.

    T - I have to cut this off now. I think it's a great day. We're in a great position. Everybody I talk to thinks we're in a great position. A lot of contracts and agreements expire today and we don't know how things will change tomorrow if it doesn't happen today. The 800#s are there - or at least access to them. We are THIS close - relax. Wait for the text. There is absolutely nothing we can do about it. It's all in somebody else' hand. Go on about your day and have a super fantastic day!

    END OF CALL.








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    Short Eagle1 CC Monday Evening...Call Notes by FlPatriot59 at I4u 09/30/2013

    Post by Admin on Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:19 pm

    Short Eagle1 CC Monday Evening...Call Notes by FlPatriot59 at I4u

    09/30/2013


    Short Eagle1 Call Monday Night ..Notes by FlPatriot59 at I4U

    [FLPatriot59] Eagle1 Call starting momentarily....Please stand by.

    EAGLE1 CALL - Over 370 people on this call tonight, over triple the number expected. Welcome and thank-you for joining us. What you hear on this call is our opinion only. Please check with your own advisors if you hear anything here you like.

    E1 = EAGLE1 - Opening prayer is being presented now.

    E1 - how we got 400 people on this call I don't know. What started out with 50 people sure exploded on us. Obviously it has to do with the post I sent out over the weekend and it got a lot of people excited.

    That post I sent out to our email list and the edited version that appeared on the Forum pretty much covered where we are. But I've had some interersting confirmations in the past 24 hours.
    ....
    E1 - I received an email from a missionary couple in Panama. They wrote to confirm that, yes, the ATMs are open but the banks may not be working because of the new system. This confirms from Panama that a new banking system is being installed. This means they are NOT switching over to the Euro but are using their own currency, per the GLOBAL CURRENCY RESET. They had to install the Babylon software to be compliant with B3 protocols.

    E1 - the other piece of this news is that Panama is backing up their currency and returning to the use of the Balboa. Why have the UN rates shown the Balboa as parallel to the USD? The Balboa was technically never declared a defunct currency. But the USD has always been the currency of trade in Panama. With the decision to switch over to the Balbao, this is part of their decision to be part of the worldwide Basel III banking system and have an asset-backed banking system.

    E1 - They've made a decision to back-up their currency with gold. I asked a friend at the IMF today about the Balboa long-haul if the GCR is released, should we look at the Balboa as future investment. His answer is "I do not recommend it, as there are much better currency investments than the Balboa."

    E1 - We still expect to have everything fly tonight. What I don't know is whether the banks will be able to exchange tomorrow. We know all the rates are on administrative screens and are ready to go up front. They have assured themselves they are ready to push the button at midnight tonight.

    E1 - We have some disputes about the rates. I've heard nothing about the Dong or Rupee. WF is showing an exchange rate of $3.22, which is not set in stone. They have been changing the rates offscreen to keep people off-guard, but we are assured it will be a $3+ rate. The expected range is expected between $3.44-3.55.

    E1 - I've seen the fee structures at WF and they have ranged from 3.5% to 12%. It depends a lot on the value of the currency as to what the fees will be. When we go to the bank, based on the amount of money involved - this is unprecedented worldwide - we're coming to the bank with millions of dollars and when we come as a group, when we walk in they know and they've already assured us we will get the best rate WF can provide us. We fully expect to see the bank provide us with the max possible, even if they take a cut in the spread. If we get the published rate per the CBI, then I would expect to get at least that amount.

    E1 - Q&A Starting Now......

    Q - I'm getting the impression that the banks will be ready to go into Tuesday morning? A - Yes, I will receive a call at 6AM my time to let me know if the rates are on the screens and if there's a 24-hour hold. We've heard that once the GCR goes live there is a 24-hour period for the banks to get ready. Until tomorrow morning, I won't know for tomorrow exchange or not.

    Q - So the next 24 hours should be very telling? A - Absolutely!

    Q - Would it be advisable to rush to the bank with everything they've got or just CE a note or two to see what we've got? A - That's probably a wise course to follow, depending on how much total you have. If you're looking at exchanging $10M IQD, I don't recommend you walk into the bank with that. One of things we've been hearing is that when you exchange your IQD, there is a restriction on it until the USD is fully rolled out, as much as 30-60 days before we can use those funds outside the USA. You can spend them for products coming into the USA, but you can't transfer them out of the country until the USD rolls out.

    Q - That applies only to the IQD because of the gold-backing. You are being paid exclusively by the gold-backed USD. Until that roll-out is complete you cannot take that money outside the country. You can exchange VND or others and spend them anywhere else in the world. If you're in Canada and you CE, you're going to be paid in CDN and you won't have those restrictions.

    Q - We've heard to use the terms IQN or IQD, VND or VNN? A - When you walk in the bank with your currency, they don't care what you call it. You have the currency in front of you. You're there to exchange dinar period.

    Q - Is it required to use the term "currency exchange?" A - Yes. You will be given a variable of the new FINcen form 104. You want to make sure when you discuss it that you are talking about a simple currency exchange. That applies to all currencies, not just the IQD. I posed this question to the folks at Abbot Downing and they said this form must be completed.

    Q - Will this exchange be completed right there with immediate credit? A - Yes, you're bringing in cash and you should see cash back in your bank account. You can't bring in a $25K note and walk out with $75K USD. You can get cashier's checks on the spot (for house payout, for example).

    [sonnayhwh] Little trivia bit . . . "Abbot Downing" was the company that built the stage coaches for Wells Fargo . . . now, back to your regularly scheduled program. . . grin

    [TexasMom] sonnayhwh hi that's interesting!! ty

    Q - For those who do not have a bank account, should there be a problem to open one? A - Correct, but it will just take longer.

    [wxxxxxxxxx] Abbott Downing is the financial planning firm that WF aquired. Just something to think about...

    Q - would it be a good idea to have a paper trail in paying off bills? A - Yes, we're dealing in numbers that are not the norm in business transactions. You're dealing in millions and contribute that to a ministry of some kind, you certainly want to keep a paper trail.

    END OF CALL.


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    Frank26 IQD Conference Call last night

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    Frank26 IQD Conference Call after Investment Night

    Monday, September 30, 2013

    * Frank’s website is: ktfalways.com ; Frank sells several currencies, which can be ordered on-line or call Frank at the number listed on the website; Frank also sells silver eagle coins. Please check out KTFA Premium, the price is $15 per month. KTFA Premium has videos, documents, valuable links, and access to unitednn.com. There is much additional valuable information on the dinar investment, tax information, and information for proper stewardship of our investment. Last, Frank has instructional CD’s available to help understand the IQD investment.

    * There are products advertised on Frank’s website; to use Frank’s referral link, click on the advertisement to be directed to the product website thru Frank’s referral link, there may be special promotions available from time to time by using Frank’s referral link

    * MB group update: there is a link on the forum for any wishing to donate any amount to help Frank and Jan with the last of the MB disaster, there is a new lay away for any who would like to help: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11056 * To join the forum, send an email to: joinktfa@gmail.com and include your name, city, state and telephone number; the registration staff will be in contact


    IQD update

    * Frank began with reading Eagle1’s post from 9/29, post 96; again, no one knows the date or the rate, this is information from personal contacts; please take all to God in prayer; this is a speculative investment, no different from any other speculative investment like stocks – no dates or rates are given or guaranteed

    * Someone on another forum has been posting information that is at odds with Frank and his teams’ information; people then call Frank and expect he and Jan to answer to what other websites say; PLEASE DO NOT BE DISRESPECTFUL TO FRANK AND JAN BY BRINGING ANYTHING FROM ANOTHER FORUM ONTO KTFAlways, AND PLEASE DO NOT CALL FRANK ABOUT INFORMATION FROM OTHER FORUMS! It is extremely disrespectful and thoughtless to Frank and Jan; please think before calling Frank and Jan, please try to have your questions answered on the forum first; if your question is about a controversial topic, please PM your question to any KTFA Admin (names in red text) other than Frank or Jan. Your respect and cooperation is greatly appreciated; thank you

    * The final hang ups to the global currency reset have been issues with UN projects as Eagle1’s post reports; the US gov’t has NOT!!! been the cause of any hold up or delay, the GCR is bigger than the USA and issues with our federal gov’t; at the last moment, IMF is not delaying nor holding anything up just to allow the us gov't to catch up....... NO!!! there is a lava flow and a date for the RD/RI in-country as we told you months ago. It is a monetary reform not needing O voice in it!!! Our gov't will start to shut down tomorrow because this is ........ O's mission!!! Congrats to him but God still Loves this nation called ....... The USA. Panama is replacing its currency and needed to asset back and become Basel III compliant – this was completed with the 5 day shut down of the Panamanian banking industry; Eagle1’s contact believes the global currency reset will take place on Oct 1; again, this is a rumor and an opinion, no one knows the date and rate. 7 strong reasons were given tonight on WHY Panama.

    * Frank then gave his report: On Friday, I Team called and gave their report; I Team previously reported that Talibani will be retired; the VP of Iraq went to NYC to meet with the UN; I Team heard a MoF minister comment to a CBI official that they would like to pay the remaining 10 billion to Kuwait on Oct 1; Iraq already paid 1 billion to Kuwait on July 1; why is that important? Historically, the CBI pays on the 1st of quarters – July 1st, and now Oct 1st begins a new quarter; the UNSC wants to see Kuwait paid

    * Frank asked all to watch for any news or information that Iraq has been given CH6; to Newshouds: leader of I Teams reports that SOFA has been activated, but we have not seen it yet, it is masked – look for signs; also, authority has

    been given to troops in Iraq to shoot terrorists on sight – they do not have to be fired on first, the ROE’s have been changed as of last Thursday; now it is about security; with the international “help” that is in Iraq, they are trying to turn it into a center of tourism like Dubai; they are working toward international recognition on all fronts. International investors are re-building Iraq to bring in tourist as soon as possible. This is a focused goal.

    * Since April there has been a decrease in the deaths from terror in Iraq; there is more security now, and violence has dramatically decreased

    * I Teams is also reporting that Chase Manhattan will exchange IQD on the spot; one last report from I Team, if Iraq make the payment to Kuwait, they will allow Iraq to announce the revaluation of their currency. Then they can enter ch6. Amen!

    * Frank asked that we disregard any other website stating that the US deficit, budget, congress or president has any influence on the global currency reset; Frank’s opinion is that he strongly disagrees that the US internal politics has any influence on the GCR. Our mess in USA is due to leadership. This "other" site may be saying the USA is just NOT ready to see the RD/RI on the IQD NOR the GCR. Bologna........... THE WORLD DOES!!!

    * Frank asked the family to recall what did Clinton do during his administration? The most memorable act of his administration was balancing the budget, which coincided with the RI of the KWD and Jack Lew and ........ Well you know the rest that Frank has been saying.

    * Nova came on the call at this point and agreed that we are seeing the same series of events – the last government shut down came right before the KWD RI and the budget was balanced, and many of the same actors are back in place like Jack Lew; Nova also gave his opinion that this will lull the US citizens into a false sense of security with balanced budget and even surplus without actually fixing our economy, and after 1-3 years, in Frank’s opinion, that is when the US economy will really take a serious and very painful hit because our USA leaders will find ways not to use this surplus to pay bills ............ But to make more of them for our children's future.

    * In Frank’s opinion, if we see an announcement tomorrow, we may expect an RD (Oct 1), followed immediately by an RI (Oct 2), which is why WF is saying exchange on Oct 2

    * Frank reported on the WF training class held last Wednesday for 2 hours, they trained on all currencies, not only focused on 1 currency, but they did change banking procedures; during the class they reviewed and shared a new banking system with buying and selling of exotic currencies, and for the first time in history of any bank (in Frank’s knowledge and opinion), the front line will have 2 drawers, one for USD and a second drawer with foreign currency;

    Frank’s speculation is that the second drawer will contain IQD’s so that we can, for example, go in with a 25K note, exchange 10K and get change back in IQD’s of 15K; this is Frank’s opinion and speculation. Also second drawer can NOT have a spectrum of ALL exotic currencies. Frank feels this drawer will concentrate soley on the IQD. Banks know US Citizens ............. Have been buying a lot of dinars and asking ........ Good qts.

    * Frank warned again not to allow your IQD out of your sight; do not allow them to be taken off-site for verification, or to be photocopied and sent out for verification; even when verified, be in the same room; be a proper steward and beware that there will be those who will try to rob you of this investment

    * Pay attention to all that is going on, lots of speeches being given

    * call dropped (9:20pm)

    * XXXXXXXXXXXX

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    Eagle1 came on the call at this point

    * XXXXXXXXXXX

    * Frank and Eagle1 are watching this hour by hour; their sources do not know the date or the rate, but their contacts are much closer to this information than any of us are; please take everything to God in prayer

    * Frank requested Eagle1 to conclude with prayer


    Bluestar came on the call at this point

    * Bluestar talked about Panama and their switch back to the Panamanian Balboa; in the past, Panama has used the USD, but they are looking to go back to their own currency

    * Bluestar asked about avoiding the fees that banks will want to charge? All laws must be obeyed, and no one should attempt to go around them; where there is latitude are the fees that the bank charges only for their profits, which are not legal regulations – this is where having a group and negotiating with the banks on their fees becomes important, going in with a group has more power to negotiate

    * Lost audio again XXXXXXX 9:45 PM






    GREETINGS KTFA FAMILY.......... DUE TO THE MASSES AND MASS CONFUSION LAST NIGHT ON YOUR CC......... I WILL DO A RE-VIEW OF WHAT WAS MISSED LAST NIGHT. LIKE EXCHANGE INFO WITH BANKS AND A DEEPER DISCUSSION WITH E1. C U ON YOUR CC IN ......... 7. PURE ALOHA ........ \M/

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    TONY, TNTDINAR CC NOTES & REPLAY, 10-2-2013

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    [FLPatriot59] TNT CALL STARTING NOW..... T = TONY | C = CALLER

    Tony - Today is Wednesday, Oct. 2 at 1:00 PM EDT. Good morning, TNT! A day we never thought we'd be here talking to you!

    But here we are. Let me tell you something - I called some people at 3-letter agencies and they told me it's going to be a GREAT DAY.

    He told me every person he knows in DC that today will be our day. From DC, to NC, to FL, to TX, to MI, AZ, NV - every single one of them have said that today is it. You know why? Because everybody is on lock-down, phones turned off, extra security in placce. While all of that is good news, it's the calm before the storm
    T - I did a blast yesterday and shared the rates. Those are the rates at the teller screens. Last night when all banks were closed the rates were at the teller screens and they sent people bank-by-bank to verifiy those rates. I'm even hearing right this minute that it's scheduled for the same time as yesterday - later today. The 24-hour hold is over, the markets look great. Let's hope this actually goes thru - there's no reason it shouldn't.

    Q&A FROM CHAT ROOM.....

    Q - when did the 24 hr start and end?
    A - Between 11PM and 2AM. Not sure when the 24 hour started. We should see it between 11AM-5PM. We should see it between 11 and 5 today.

    Q - Do you know if there are any holdups? This is taking too long.
    A - Those are mystic questions and my crystal ball is not giving me the answers. If the entire world is waiting and people flew to DC yesterday, signed new documents, allocated new money to extend contracts, paid some people to agree to agree, why should we see it?

    T - The UN asked for a 24 hour delay to see how the market responded. They asked for another one last night but I was told it was delayed. The IQN rate is showing at $25.87 at 3 of the top 4 and they're all saying it's live at their teller screens awaiting authorization. Nobody is going to jeopardize their jobs for you if you walk in and ask for rates - DON'T GO TO THE BANKS!

    T - I actually heard yesterday that the RV was being held hostage in a certain situation and had to be paid for to get out of that situation. As with most hostage situations, you never know when the deal is over. A lot of you assume that I agree with everything the POTUS does, but I think a lot of things could've been done differently on both sides. The meetings today with the bank meetings have nothing to do with the RV, based on what I'm told by DC. But I ask "how could it not?" I respect the office of the POTUS regardless of who's in there.

    Q - How should we expect to get the 800#s?
    A - I've heard about the 800#s for 2 days. I don't know how they're going to be given out. I'm being told there will be a direct connect from the US Gov't to a particular site to get it out to the masses. Not just one bank, but all of them. When I put the 800#s out there, I plan on putting them on our board and doing a very short call telling what the rates we're getting, then I'll give you my opinion and the opinions of gov peeps and bank peeps as to what you should do. Will get clarification on the 30 days, what the different banks are offering, etc.

    Q - Many of the intel providers are coming together except on the rates.
    A - 3.44 was the rate we were hearing for years, then it went to 3.68 then 3.86, because it's supposed to be .25-.50+/- of the KWD. Once the GCR got involved those numbers got adjusted. You're going to be surprised at other currencies that will be outrageous. The $25 rate is just for that 30 days and will come back down to normal. The IQD rate of 3.44 is in-country and the IQN is out of country, then they'll all settle down after 30 days. It's not a long-term thing. I think some people are getting some really bad info.

    T - I am getting different rates from bankers and they will be going by what you ask for. There are millions of people who don't know about these rates. People with IQD will go into the banks and ask for IQD and will get the low rates. Only a handful of us going to the bank will ask for IQN and get the high rate.

    Q - I live in Bermuda. Will our banks do the exchange here?
    A - I have no idea. I cannot tell you how to take money out of your country. There has to be a legitimate way to get it done without having to sneak it out.

    Q - Heard anymore about the zero income tax after the first of the year?
    A - No. I have not.

    Q -Please ask Okie onto the call today to announce the RV if it happens during the call. A - I'll have to ask the mods for permission to do that. Okie is probably listening right now and will call me afterwards.

    LIVE CALL-IN STARTING NOW...... C = CALLER | T = TONY

    C - Regarding the post by Mnt Goat, her narrative is that this is tied to the shut-down now completely. You don't subscribe to that. Someone else I spoke with today said the GCR is directly tied to this at the highest levels.
    T - The whole thing with Mnt Goat is that I don't mind people having different opinions and come to their own conclusions. I like to let people have theirs and not comment on them, unless they ask me directly. If you can contradict it and give a reason for it, I don't have a problem with that. The Mods don't want Mnt Goat posting on our site because it's too controversial, too many subjects off the dinar, etc., that a lot of people don't want to talk about it. I don't mind anyone posting as long as their honest.

    T - I don't like people coming on any site and trying to deceive people, claiming to be one person when they are someone else, claiming background checks have been done when they haven't, etc. We know who everybody is. When you come into the chat room we know who you are. We check IP addresses, even though you have different names and different accounts. If you're asking for the spotlight you'd better be able to handle. When this RV happens, those who claim they were background checked better be able to stand up behind it because it's going to come out.

    T - I've been hearing it doesn't have anything to do with the Gov't shutdown. They've isolated it so it doesn't. In the big scheme it's a ripple effect. There were trillions of dollars that were signed off and changed hands and bought the RV out of this situation. Now it's out. Regardless of if it's bought out now and not part of the hostage situation, what is the ripple effect? Do I wait to see what the makets will do, how they will be affected, give the markets 2-3 days run before doing it, etc.? The meetings today aren't RV-related but they are economically-related and those go hand-in-hand. The effects are still involved. It could be any minute now. Somebody is doing something. The banks are on lock-down. Everybody's phones are going to voicemail. A lot of people expect it today.

    T - the more I hear and the better explanations I get it does start to make sense. Today is the first day they're getting together at 5:30PM to see if they can work things out. That influx of cash could change all the reasons for the RV and negotiations. I don't think this will take another month, another week, etc., that it could happen right after or before this meeting. But I'm smart enough to know it will have an effect.

    C - Why would we be on lock-down if this could go down any second? People will be feeling the heat, especially elected officials. You mentioned previously 3 signatures were required and certainly the further we get it plays into that narrative.
    T - the markets are normal and the longer it is normal the better it is. I like all the info from last night to today that it's more likely to happen than not, but I am concerned about today's meetings with O even though assured they have nothing to do with the RV but with money.

    C - How could the USA hold up the entire world waiting on this RV?
    T - The entire world operates on the USD. It's all tied in together. That why in the next 2 years it's going to be divided into 5 regions so this doesn't happen again (the whole world held up by 1 country). There are going to be 3 new currencies in those 5 regions so the whole world isn't held up by 1. But a lot of money exchanged hands to make sure this happens so it' free to go. But do we dare go without finding out what is going to happen over here?

    T - Someone from another site asked me today if we could get together to discuss post RV? Even when I was at PTR I talked to other peeps. More info we get helps everybody and come to rational conclusions. I don't know everything or pretend to. I know what I know and my sources and respect them. You can decide for yourself.

    C-Hello? I have a legit question. I'm asking for a few people. When we get our rates, is there going to be a minimum amount of dinar you have to have?
    T - no, as long as you ask for IQN it won't matter.

    C - I told you not to give up your day job with the singing and got my hand slapped. I apologize. You know we love you. Can't wait to shake your hand and give you a hug in Las Vegas

    C - Nobody's talking about the tax issue and my thought is that it's a non-tax issue. We know that people in gov't (Congressmen, Senators etc.) have to disclose how they are overnight billionaires.

    T - New laws prevent insider-trading and a lot of this won't put it in their names, but it will be placed in trusts, company names, etc.

    C - Do you really think they are going to tax us?
    T - Yes I do. That's why I'd put 50% away until February. That wilL still leave you with plenty to spend.

    C - Is the ceiling above $34?
    T - I think I'm supposed to say "I refuse to answer any questions above $25." When the announcement is made I will give you something above $25 to work with. I can't give you the ceiling because they would change and shorten the length of time. I can't blast that out.

    C - After the RV has been released, will you share how far up the negotation ladder we can go without being thrust into the higher tax bracket?
    T - If I had it I would. They don't have all those particulars in place yet. There are 4 rates talked about. I'm just going for it and deal with the tax liability later.

    C - I have a comment about $3.44. This is the starting rate and we need to think about the IQN as an oil credit and peeps want to buy and that increases the rate.
    T - If I look at the Middle East now, the world has changed, the economy has changed, it's a little different scenario.

    C - When I was in China I was told that the most powerful person is from the US. One person has a lot of say so in the banking system, so somebody stands to lose a lot of money. The banking system is basically owned by the same people.
    T - I always tell people to Google to find out who owns the Federal Reserve. See how many countries that the Fed is in and how many CBIs and you will see they own over 152 CBIs. If there are only 160 currencies and they own 153 of them, who has more say so? If I have the power why should I hold it back? The only way to bring it back is to restart it.

    C - Once the RV hits, can we form a CEO club?
    T - I think it's a great idea to come on here and help each other. That's more down Ray's alley - he's been doing something like that for 20 years (financial planning, etc.). I like the idea that you're wanting to help each other.

    C - There was a story that the tellers at WF had multiple drawers for a different currency. Is this true?
    T - I haven't heard this from any of the banking people I've talked to. I can't tell you if it's true or not.

    C - I've read that even at the $25.87 rate they will tax at the 55% rate. If that's so, I should go for the highest rate, right?
    T - We don't know what the law is, just what they're trying to push through. I'd go with worse-case scenario and be prepared.

    C - I did the numbers and the $25.87 rate would be good if it's the lesser tax.
    T - If pays to go for the $25.87 if the 11% is the tax rate. Personally, I wouldn't go for the top dollar if I didn't know how to make money with my money. You can risk money, lose it and still be taxed on it. I'm trying to get you to think ahead. When I got involved in a company, I'd look at the top position, how many people were between me and that position, and how I could work to that top position. I would have monthly targets to get me there. Same thing with my money. If I want to make $100K by the end of the year, I know i have to make $8-9K per month. Same thing with this: you know where you want to go and back yourself down from there. If you don't need the 50% for taxes in February, at least you'll have it. If so, then you're covered.

    C - If the lower rate is going to be taxed the same as the higher rate, why go for the lower rate?
    T - You're absolutely right. But if it's at the 11% tax rate the lower rate makes sense. The law could change that.

    C - Committe members have indicated it would be financial suicide to go in with high numbers and not know where the oil and gas laws are?
    T - those numbers are set, even at $75 credit. The question is how much is pushed to the economy to stimulate it. So there's no stimulus package because this will stimulate the economy. Let's create more millionaires so they can have and do something with it. This will help the middle class. We will still be the middle class.

    C - You mentioned in earlier calls who we should call if we have problems with TSA/airport staff.
    T - somebody put that in a Forum, but I can't remember who that is right now.

    C - Any advice on how to eliminate spread fees?
    T - Yes, tell them you don't want to pay it. Tell them you know there are making 1% every night on your money, then start to walk out. It will go away real quick.

    C -Airport security may stop and count our dinar.
    T - It's your money and you don't have to worry about traveling anywhere in the country with cash in your pocket. I had a guy PM me about traveling with a 5K note in his wallet. They shouldn't be checking that anyway. The only real concern is with large amounts going out of the country.

    C - What about spending limits outside the country using a debit card?
    T - Call your bank first so they won't freeze your card. Let them know in advance and prepare ahead of time.

    C - Do you think the US is holding this up for the change-over from the FRN ($100 bill to be released on 10/Cool?
    T - no, as far as I know that new bill still has FRN on it.

    C - will all the banks have the DeLarue machines? T - I know all the banks won't have them and some of the cash-in centers won't. You can always say you want to go to one that has it.

    C - I want to cast a vote for leaving Mnt Goat on the site. You're pretty open-minded and I don't think we should be restricted . One of the things I like about TNT is that it is open-minded. That being said, I'm concerned with those holding on with glue. Why would the UN care about the market reaction?
    T - First it was at 11, then 2:30, then the 24-hour period because the USA market affects the global economies. If there was a problem it would've thrown the numbers off and possibly crashed. But now it appears nothing is happening, no currencies are crashing, so now is the time to go. A lot of things could've happened and our gov't was prepared, but none of them happened.

    T - A lot of us have different opinions. Regardless of what they do in DC, we have to live with it and come elections we can tell them what we did not like. During every administration, they can go in and try to change every law. At this point we know we fought the good fight. We tried to undo it, so go feel some pain. I tried to warn you but in the end you'll know better next time. I think both parties should be adult enough to not crash the whole country over 1 thing. People are hurting today. I try to look at both sides and we did our best to tell you to look out. Anyway, let's get off politics - LOL!

    C - Since the deadline was missed, do we have to redo the agreements?
    T - I heard the RV did go a week ago. 3.44 is on their cards again today. As far as the official RV, that's why the UN voted last week and they entered the WTO. And last night the contracts were extended that were supposed to end on Oct. 1. My question is "how do you unravel a whole year's worth of funding, contracts, trades onm banking level, SKRs, etc." People have been paid based on SKRs and the banks took on that liability.

    C - So we dodged that bullet? At some point thay have to let it go.
    T - we don't know long those contracts were extended. We do know there is a plan for it to go today. We do know they asked for a 24 hours extensions. We'll see what happens today.

    C - I've heard it will be a taxable event and that Congress has to pass the law and they did say to make it retroactive at Dec. 31. That's why it's best to put it in an interest-account and hold it.
    T - It's not law at the moment.

    T - Supposedly the extension of the contracts was for a very short period of time. I can't see them paying that kind of money again for such a short time.

    T - It's a great day. Everybody in DC and around the world thinks it's today. Yet again we wait. Everybody is on lockdown and saying it's today. I think we may be celebrating. Enjoy your day! END OF CALL.
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    Frank26 IQD Conference Call after Bible Study Tuesday, October 1, 20

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    Frank26 IQD Conference Call after Bible Study
    Tuesday, October 1, 2013


    IQD update
    • Frank began with showing the USA Today, WSJ and his local newspaper announcing the federal government shut down; in Frank’s opinion, this has been O’s mission; we need to prepare and be proper stewards of our investment. By shutting down our gov't he has also shut down ........ Obama careless.
    • O has never been invited to the ME, and healthcare is the excuse for the “deadlock” in the federal gov’t; despite these things, it does not impact the global currency reset – it is not dependent on the US federal govt
    • O is following the same course as Clinton did prior to the KWD RI; O has no power or influence over the global currency reset; Frank asked the family to go back and study what Clinton did, and look at when the budget was actually balanced, it was not until after he left office; Frank asked all to pray for O
    • Frank and Eagle1 anticipated the GCR would occur today, and it is possible that it has, but we do not see it yet; this is their opinion; Frank’s opinion is that the GCR began a week ago, and that we will see the evidence of it in days, but again this is only their opinion
    • Frank and his team tried calling banks to request information about foreign currency exchange, and in every case, the calls were dropped or mis-routed; no information was gained today
    • Frank stands behind that WF will be exchanging foreign currency tomorrow, but they already do this – remember the 2 drawers
    • Frank gave a WF update: his contact did not see any rate on screens today, there was no evidence of the reset today; however, they have been told that there will be currency in the second drawer tomorrow; today, 3 packages came by FedEx to this contacts location and the packages went directly into the vault; it was the currency for the 2nd drawer, assumed to be IQD
    • Frank’s opinion is that the GCR will roll out in 10 -20 baskets over a period of time, Eagle1’s opinion is that we will see almost all come out at once with perhaps a few currencies in a few more days
    • What happens if we do not see evidence of the GCR tomorrow? WF will continue to play dumb, they are waiting for the release
    • Frank said gold is not behaving as it should, both gold/silver and the dollar have dropped – Frank played a voice mail reporting the odd behavior of metals – keep watching them; in Frank’s opinion, we will not see the US federal gov’t back up and running until the GCR is announced; again, Frank’s opinion is that O intentionally has shut down the gov’t, it is his mission
    • Iraq is #1 in 7 minerals in the world; agriculture in Iraq can support the ME; they can grow corn in 3 weeks due to the richness of the soil; the water that Saddam dammed has been released and flows freely; the world will once again flow to Iraq – to Babylon; it has abundant prosperity to last us until he says “enough”

    At this point Eagle1 and Bluestar joined the call
    • Eagle1 team member went into WF this morning just to check on their account and then asked to speak to the private banker; he asked “do you know what’s going on?” and she nodded her head yes, and she said they are ready for it, then pointed to 3 drawers and said 1 for USD, 1 for other foreign currency, and 1 she said “you know what that is for”
    • Per Eagle1’s WF source, in their opinion, they are ready to go
    • Frank is still hearing from I Team that if Iraq pays the 10 billion to Kuwait, Iraq will be allowed to announce the RV
    • Frank and Eagle1 both believe the GCR started about a week ago, and both have the opinion that tomorrow, WF will say they do exchange the IQD
    • Bluestar asked Eagle1 and Frank why do they have differing schools of thought on the number of currencies – Frank’s opinion is that that GCR will come out 10 -20 currencies at a time over about a year; Eagle1 said he held that same opinion for a long time, but based on information from his sources in the IMF, the risk to investors tying up currencies to continue to reinvest after basket after basket to capitalize on the gains and tie up currencies so it needs to be rolled out all at once; Eagle1’s sources at IMF report all 198 currencies are successfully loaded on the screens now
    • Frank said his sources are mostly military, contractual and political whereas Eagle1’s sources are more in the banking and finance industry; Frank encouraged the family to lean more toward Eagle1’s opinion as his sources are more connected to the banking and finance sector
    • Bluestar asked if we need to refer to the IQD, IRD and VND as “IQN,” “IRN” and the “VNN” when we go to exchange, that perhaps how we refer to the currency will signal the bank that we want the rate for the revalued currency, not the current rate – we do not want the in-country rate for the IQD, we want the international rate for the IQN; this may not be an issue, but to be safe, please refer to the currencies as dinar IQN, dong VNN and rupiah IQN and be absolutely certain to state we are EXCHANGING, NOT “cashing out”
    • Remember that bank fees and exchange fees are negotiable – there are some absolutes that are dictated by federal regulation, and those are not negotiable; however, for the bank’s fees and exchange rate, negotiate! Try to work from a position of power – if you can put a group together to negotiate from a position of strength, consider it; Frank’s personal plan is to wait 3 days, calling banks during that time to see what they will offer, and also looking to see what the rate for the IQN will do in the first 3 days
    • Bluestar suggested visiting Bankgrade.com for information, and if anyone has 3 million IQN or more, WF wealth managers will work with those having that amount or more
    • Frank concluded the call by singing Amazing Grace and Andy gave the shofar horn blast
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    Tidbits from Eagle1 Call Tuesday Night 10/01/2013

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    Tidbits from Eagle1 Call Tuesday Night by Robdel at TNT Forum

    10/01/2013


    Robdel: TIDBITS FROM EAGLE 1 CALL 10/01/13

    1. E1 OPENS BY SAYING TODAY WILL BE THE LAST INTEL CALL DUE TO THE BLESSING COMING TONIGHT!

    2. WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF SPECTACULAR EVENTS THAT GOD IS ORCHESTRATING

    3. THERE WAS A 24 HR DELAY AS SUSPECTED FOR THE GCR START

    4. THERE WAS AN INTERESTING THING THAT HAPPENED AT WF TODAY. A DINARIAN WENT IN TO HIS WF BRANCH IN COLUMBUS GA. WENT UP TO A TELLER ASKED HER IF SHE'D CHECK HIS ACCOUNT HE SAID YOU KNOW WHY IM HERE RIGHT? TO CHECK ON CURRENCY EXCH. HE ASKED HOW DID HER TRAINING GO. SHE ASKED HOW DO YOU KNOW? SO YOU ARE AWARE OF THE IQD, SHE SAID SHE HAS HER TWO DRAWERS READY FOR THE CASH IN TOMORROW.
    ....
    5. NEWS YOU CAN USE; E1 TOOK THE STORY OF GA TELLER EXPERIENCE TO IMF ANFD THE UST TO CONFIRM IF IT WAS TRUE ABOUT THE DUEL DRAWERS. THEY TOLD E1 THAT THEY FULLY EXPECT TO BEGIN EXCHANGING THE IQD TOMORROW!

    6. THE RATES ARE EXPECTED TO COME OUT AT WHAT HE HAS SAID IN THE PAST AT 3.44-3.55 AND COMING OUT AT A VERY HIGH RATE IS AGAINST IMF RULES AND REGULATIONS.
    THE ONY WAY TO GET A VERY HIGH RATE WOULD BE TO HAVE INVESTED IN ONE OF THE SPECIAL PROGRAMS WHERE THEY HAVE SAT IN THE INVESTMENT FOR A LONG TIME SUCH AS THE PP OR THE OMEGA FUND ETC.

    7. E1 EXPECTS THAT THE RATES WILL COME OUT EVERYWHERE AT THE SAME TIME BOTH EAST AND WEST. ONCE IT SHOWS UP ON FOREX IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY GO TO ALL THE BANKS.

    Robdel: MY COMMENTS: LOOKS LIKE WE ARE THERE FOLKS, BUT PLEASE DONT BE CRUSHED IF IT DOESNT HAPPEN! REMEMBER THE IQD IS NOT YOUR GOD OR YOUR PROVIDER ITS A TOOL/BLESSING FROM THE ONLY TRUE GOD THE FATHER OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST! KEEP YOUR EYES ON HIM! IF YOU HAVE NEEDS, KEEP YOUR REQUESTS AND FAITH GOING TOWARDS HIM NOT THE IQD!





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    TONY, TNTDINAR CC NOTES & REPLAY, 10-2-2013

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    [FLPatriot59] TNT CALL STARTING NOW..... T = TONY | C = CALLER

    Tony - Today is Wednesday, Oct. 2 at 1:00 PM EDT. Good morning, TNT! A day we never thought we'd be here talking to you!

    But here we are. Let me tell you something - I called some people at 3-letter agencies and they told me it's going to be a GREAT DAY.

    He told me every person he knows in DC that today will be our day. From DC, to NC, to FL, to TX, to MI, AZ, NV - every single one of them have said that today is it. You know why? Because everybody is on lock-down, phones turned off, extra security in placce. While all of that is good news, it's the calm before the storm
    T - I did a blast yesterday and shared the rates. Those are the rates at the teller screens. Last night when all banks were closed the rates were at the teller screens and they sent people bank-by-bank to verifiy those rates. I'm even hearing right this minute that it's scheduled for the same time as yesterday - later today. The 24-hour hold is over, the markets look great. Let's hope this actually goes thru - there's no reason it shouldn't.

    Q&A FROM CHAT ROOM.....

    Q - when did the 24 hr start and end?
    A - Between 11PM and 2AM. Not sure when the 24 hour started. We should see it between 11AM-5PM. We should see it between 11 and 5 today.

    Q - Do you know if there are any holdups? This is taking too long.
    A - Those are mystic questions and my crystal ball is not giving me the answers. If the entire world is waiting and people flew to DC yesterday, signed new documents, allocated new money to extend contracts, paid some people to agree to agree, why should we see it?

    T - The UN asked for a 24 hour delay to see how the market responded. They asked for another one last night but I was told it was delayed. The IQN rate is showing at $25.87 at 3 of the top 4 and they're all saying it's live at their teller screens awaiting authorization. Nobody is going to jeopardize their jobs for you if you walk in and ask for rates - DON'T GO TO THE BANKS!

    T - I actually heard yesterday that the RV was being held hostage in a certain situation and had to be paid for to get out of that situation. As with most hostage situations, you never know when the deal is over. A lot of you assume that I agree with everything the POTUS does, but I think a lot of things could've been done differently on both sides. The meetings today with the bank meetings have nothing to do with the RV, based on what I'm told by DC. But I ask "how could it not?" I respect the office of the POTUS regardless of who's in there.

    Q - How should we expect to get the 800#s?
    A - I've heard about the 800#s for 2 days. I don't know how they're going to be given out. I'm being told there will be a direct connect from the US Gov't to a particular site to get it out to the masses. Not just one bank, but all of them. When I put the 800#s out there, I plan on putting them on our board and doing a very short call telling what the rates we're getting, then I'll give you my opinion and the opinions of gov peeps and bank peeps as to what you should do. Will get clarification on the 30 days, what the different banks are offering, etc.

    Q - Many of the intel providers are coming together except on the rates.
    A - 3.44 was the rate we were hearing for years, then it went to 3.68 then 3.86, because it's supposed to be .25-.50+/- of the KWD. Once the GCR got involved those numbers got adjusted. You're going to be surprised at other currencies that will be outrageous. The $25 rate is just for that 30 days and will come back down to normal. The IQD rate of 3.44 is in-country and the IQN is out of country, then they'll all settle down after 30 days. It's not a long-term thing. I think some people are getting some really bad info.

    T - I am getting different rates from bankers and they will be going by what you ask for. There are millions of people who don't know about these rates. People with IQD will go into the banks and ask for IQD and will get the low rates. Only a handful of us going to the bank will ask for IQN and get the high rate.

    Q - I live in Bermuda. Will our banks do the exchange here?
    A - I have no idea. I cannot tell you how to take money out of your country. There has to be a legitimate way to get it done without having to sneak it out.

    Q - Heard anymore about the zero income tax after the first of the year?
    A - No. I have not.

    Q -Please ask Okie onto the call today to announce the RV if it happens during the call. A - I'll have to ask the mods for permission to do that. Okie is probably listening right now and will call me afterwards.

    LIVE CALL-IN STARTING NOW...... C = CALLER | T = TONY

    C - Regarding the post by Mnt Goat, her narrative is that this is tied to the shut-down now completely. You don't subscribe to that. Someone else I spoke with today said the GCR is directly tied to this at the highest levels.
    T - The whole thing with Mnt Goat is that I don't mind people having different opinions and come to their own conclusions. I like to let people have theirs and not comment on them, unless they ask me directly. If you can contradict it and give a reason for it, I don't have a problem with that. The Mods don't want Mnt Goat posting on our site because it's too controversial, too many subjects off the dinar, etc., that a lot of people don't want to talk about it. I don't mind anyone posting as long as their honest.

    T - I don't like people coming on any site and trying to deceive people, claiming to be one person when they are someone else, claiming background checks have been done when they haven't, etc. We know who everybody is. When you come into the chat room we know who you are. We check IP addresses, even though you have different names and different accounts. If you're asking for the spotlight you'd better be able to handle. When this RV happens, those who claim they were background checked better be able to stand up behind it because it's going to come out.

    T - I've been hearing it doesn't have anything to do with the Gov't shutdown. They've isolated it so it doesn't. In the big scheme it's a ripple effect. There were trillions of dollars that were signed off and changed hands and bought the RV out of this situation. Now it's out. Regardless of if it's bought out now and not part of the hostage situation, what is the ripple effect? Do I wait to see what the makets will do, how they will be affected, give the markets 2-3 days run before doing it, etc.? The meetings today aren't RV-related but they are economically-related and those go hand-in-hand. The effects are still involved. It could be any minute now. Somebody is doing something. The banks are on lock-down. Everybody's phones are going to voicemail. A lot of people expect it today.

    T - the more I hear and the better explanations I get it does start to make sense. Today is the first day they're getting together at 5:30PM to see if they can work things out. That influx of cash could change all the reasons for the RV and negotiations. I don't think this will take another month, another week, etc., that it could happen right after or before this meeting. But I'm smart enough to know it will have an effect.

    C - Why would we be on lock-down if this could go down any second? People will be feeling the heat, especially elected officials. You mentioned previously 3 signatures were required and certainly the further we get it plays into that narrative.
    T - the markets are normal and the longer it is normal the better it is. I like all the info from last night to today that it's more likely to happen than not, but I am concerned about today's meetings with O even though assured they have nothing to do with the RV but with money.

    C - How could the USA hold up the entire world waiting on this RV?
    T - The entire world operates on the USD. It's all tied in together. That why in the next 2 years it's going to be divided into 5 regions so this doesn't happen again (the whole world held up by 1 country). There are going to be 3 new currencies in those 5 regions so the whole world isn't held up by 1. But a lot of money exchanged hands to make sure this happens so it' free to go. But do we dare go without finding out what is going to happen over here?

    T - Someone from another site asked me today if we could get together to discuss post RV? Even when I was at PTR I talked to other peeps. More info we get helps everybody and come to rational conclusions. I don't know everything or pretend to. I know what I know and my sources and respect them. You can decide for yourself.

    C-Hello? I have a legit question. I'm asking for a few people. When we get our rates, is there going to be a minimum amount of dinar you have to have?
    T - no, as long as you ask for IQN it won't matter.

    C - I told you not to give up your day job with the singing and got my hand slapped. I apologize. You know we love you. Can't wait to shake your hand and give you a hug in Las Vegas

    C - Nobody's talking about the tax issue and my thought is that it's a non-tax issue. We know that people in gov't (Congressmen, Senators etc.) have to disclose how they are overnight billionaires.

    T - New laws prevent insider-trading and a lot of this won't put it in their names, but it will be placed in trusts, company names, etc.

    C - Do you really think they are going to tax us?
    T - Yes I do. That's why I'd put 50% away until February. That wilL still leave you with plenty to spend.

    C - Is the ceiling above $34?
    T - I think I'm supposed to say "I refuse to answer any questions above $25." When the announcement is made I will give you something above $25 to work with. I can't give you the ceiling because they would change and shorten the length of time. I can't blast that out.

    C - After the RV has been released, will you share how far up the negotation ladder we can go without being thrust into the higher tax bracket?
    T - If I had it I would. They don't have all those particulars in place yet. There are 4 rates talked about. I'm just going for it and deal with the tax liability later.

    C - I have a comment about $3.44. This is the starting rate and we need to think about the IQN as an oil credit and peeps want to buy and that increases the rate.
    T - If I look at the Middle East now, the world has changed, the economy has changed, it's a little different scenario.

    C - When I was in China I was told that the most powerful person is from the US. One person has a lot of say so in the banking system, so somebody stands to lose a lot of money. The banking system is basically owned by the same people.
    T - I always tell people to Google to find out who owns the Federal Reserve. See how many countries that the Fed is in and how many CBIs and you will see they own over 152 CBIs. If there are only 160 currencies and they own 153 of them, who has more say so? If I have the power why should I hold it back? The only way to bring it back is to restart it.

    C - Once the RV hits, can we form a CEO club?
    T - I think it's a great idea to come on here and help each other. That's more down Ray's alley - he's been doing something like that for 20 years (financial planning, etc.). I like the idea that you're wanting to help each other.

    C - There was a story that the tellers at WF had multiple drawers for a different currency. Is this true?
    T - I haven't heard this from any of the banking people I've talked to. I can't tell you if it's true or not.

    C - I've read that even at the $25.87 rate they will tax at the 55% rate. If that's so, I should go for the highest rate, right?
    T - We don't know what the law is, just what they're trying to push through. I'd go with worse-case scenario and be prepared.

    C - I did the numbers and the $25.87 rate would be good if it's the lesser tax.
    T - If pays to go for the $25.87 if the 11% is the tax rate. Personally, I wouldn't go for the top dollar if I didn't know how to make money with my money. You can risk money, lose it and still be taxed on it. I'm trying to get you to think ahead. When I got involved in a company, I'd look at the top position, how many people were between me and that position, and how I could work to that top position. I would have monthly targets to get me there. Same thing with my money. If I want to make $100K by the end of the year, I know i have to make $8-9K per month. Same thing with this: you know where you want to go and back yourself down from there. If you don't need the 50% for taxes in February, at least you'll have it. If so, then you're covered.

    C - If the lower rate is going to be taxed the same as the higher rate, why go for the lower rate?
    T - You're absolutely right. But if it's at the 11% tax rate the lower rate makes sense. The law could change that.

    C - Committe members have indicated it would be financial suicide to go in with high numbers and not know where the oil and gas laws are?
    T - those numbers are set, even at $75 credit. The question is how much is pushed to the economy to stimulate it. So there's no stimulus package because this will stimulate the economy. Let's create more millionaires so they can have and do something with it. This will help the middle class. We will still be the middle class.

    C - You mentioned in earlier calls who we should call if we have problems with TSA/airport staff.
    T - somebody put that in a Forum, but I can't remember who that is right now.

    C - Any advice on how to eliminate spread fees?
    T - Yes, tell them you don't want to pay it. Tell them you know there are making 1% every night on your money, then start to walk out. It will go away real quick.

    C -Airport security may stop and count our dinar.
    T - It's your money and you don't have to worry about traveling anywhere in the country with cash in your pocket. I had a guy PM me about traveling with a 5K note in his wallet. They shouldn't be checking that anyway. The only real concern is with large amounts going out of the country.

    C - What about spending limits outside the country using a debit card?
    T - Call your bank first so they won't freeze your card. Let them know in advance and prepare ahead of time.

    C - Do you think the US is holding this up for the change-over from the FRN ($100 bill to be released on 10/Cool?
    T - no, as far as I know that new bill still has FRN on it.

    C - will all the banks have the DeLarue machines? T - I know all the banks won't have them and some of the cash-in centers won't. You can always say you want to go to one that has it.

    C - I want to cast a vote for leaving Mnt Goat on the site. You're pretty open-minded and I don't think we should be restricted . One of the things I like about TNT is that it is open-minded. That being said, I'm concerned with those holding on with glue. Why would the UN care about the market reaction?
    T - First it was at 11, then 2:30, then the 24-hour period because the USA market affects the global economies. If there was a problem it would've thrown the numbers off and possibly crashed. But now it appears nothing is happening, no currencies are crashing, so now is the time to go. A lot of things could've happened and our gov't was prepared, but none of them happened.

    T - A lot of us have different opinions. Regardless of what they do in DC, we have to live with it and come elections we can tell them what we did not like. During every administration, they can go in and try to change every law. At this point we know we fought the good fight. We tried to undo it, so go feel some pain. I tried to warn you but in the end you'll know better next time. I think both parties should be adult enough to not crash the whole country over 1 thing. People are hurting today. I try to look at both sides and we did our best to tell you to look out. Anyway, let's get off politics - LOL!

    C - Since the deadline was missed, do we have to redo the agreements?
    T - I heard the RV did go a week ago. 3.44 is on their cards again today. As far as the official RV, that's why the UN voted last week and they entered the WTO. And last night the contracts were extended that were supposed to end on Oct. 1. My question is "how do you unravel a whole year's worth of funding, contracts, trades onm banking level, SKRs, etc." People have been paid based on SKRs and the banks took on that liability.

    C - So we dodged that bullet? At some point thay have to let it go.
    T - we don't know long those contracts were extended. We do know there is a plan for it to go today. We do know they asked for a 24 hours extensions. We'll see what happens today.

    C - I've heard it will be a taxable event and that Congress has to pass the law and they did say to make it retroactive at Dec. 31. That's why it's best to put it in an interest-account and hold it.
    T - It's not law at the moment.

    T - Supposedly the extension of the contracts was for a very short period of time. I can't see them paying that kind of money again for such a short time.

    T - It's a great day. Everybody in DC and around the world thinks it's today. Yet again we wait. Everybody is on lockdown and saying it's today. I think we may be celebrating. Enjoy your day! END OF CALL.
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    TNT Tony's Friday Official CC Notes from Flying Star 10/04/2013

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    Per Request, TNT Tony's Friday Official CC Notes from Flying Star

    10/04/2013


    TNT Tony Friday CC Notes by Flying Star:

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    GOOD MORNING TNT....How you guys doing?
    Alldthe days blend together now
    its FRIDAY Oct. 4th
    how much time do I have ?

    WANTED TO DO A SHORT CALL AND EVEN SHORTER CALL THIS AFTERNOON
    BUT GO THROUGH A WHOLE LOT OF STUFF
    GOT A TEAM OF PPL THAT WILL TEXT ME IF I FORGET THE IMP. PARTS
    BUT I HAVE TO START WITH A NEGATIVE

    IN THE COURSE OF GETTING ALL THIS GOOD INFO I GOT YESTERDAY
    GOING TO TELL YOU SOMETHING BEFORE THE CALL IS OVER
    BLOWS MY MIND LAST FEW DAYS AND GOT CONFIRM TODAY
    HEARING THE STICKING POINT...HOW IT WAS RESOLVED AND THINGS THAT HAPPENED AND UP TO TODAY
    ....
    Read More Link on Right
    WILL TRY TO GO IN ORDER AND BUILD IT UP LIKE I DID
    THE PUZZLE PIECE SHOULD BE MISSING ONE PIECE
    AND HAVE A CLEAR PICTURE
    BEEN HONEST WITH YOU
    TELLING IT TO YOU LIKE I BELIEVE IT TO BE AND IT MADE SENSE
    NOT GOING TO UNDO IT
    AND CONTINUE TO DO THAT WITH JUSTIFICATION
    GOT SO MUCH MORE JUSTIFICATION IN THE LAST 3 MONTHS
    AND CIRCUMSTANCES DO CHANGE
    WHAT I DO LIKE ABOUT IS

    2 THINGS
    BEEN DOING EVERYTHING I COULD DO
    YESTERDAY I WAS TIRED..ON THE PH TILL 11PM FROM 6 IN THE MORNING
    TALKING TO PPL ON AIRPLANES
    AND WHEN I SAY I'M TIRED AND CAN'T DO SOMETHING AND SAY I'M TIRED
    BUT PPL COME ONTO THE FORUM
    AND SAY ---- BECAUSE I DIDN'T DO A CALL

    GOT A LOT OF CALLS THIS MORNING AND PM'S
    WE GOT 5, 10, YESTERDAY
    I'M NOT PAID TO DO THIS
    WHEN PPL SAY I OWE YOU
    I'M DOING THE BEST I CAN DO
    I'M HUMAN AND I GET TIRED

    ITS STILL A GREAT DAY
    BUT THOSE THAT ARE COMPLAINING THAT I DIDN'T DO A CALL
    BUT GOING TO GIVE IT ALL TO YOU TODAY
    IT GOT TO ME YESTERDAY
    AND KNOW YOU KNOW I'M HUMAN
    THE OTHER THING THAT BOTHERED ME
    IF YO ARE LISTENING...CALL A MOD OR SOMEONE WHO KNOW YO THIS WHOLE GROUP SCENARIO
    MY INFO SAYS THE GROUP THING CHANGED
    BUT THIS WHOLE GROUP THING
    I GOT CALLS...PAM GOT CALLS AND EMAILS
    FROM THIS GROUP
    OUR PPL THAT NEVER SIGNED UP
    AND TELLING ME THAT OUR SITE WAS HACKED
    AND GETTING EMAILS FROM PPL
    I SAW THE EMAIL
    EVERYONE SENT IT TO ME
    I DON'T THINK OUR SYSTEM WAS HACKED
    MAYBE I WAS WRONG
    BUT WE DID NOT GIVE OUT YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS TO THEM
    AND IF YOU DIDN'T
    THEN IT SHOWS YOU ONE MORE LEVEL
    TO SIGN UP FOR THEIR GROUP
    AND WHAT THEY'LL DO
    YOU SHOULD KNOW NOT TO CALL THE 800#
    WHEN IT COMES OUT
    IF YOU DIDN'T SIGN UP

    REMOVE THE EMAIL ADDRESS FROM THAT GROUP
    IF YOU THINK SOMETHING ELSE IS GOING ON
    THEN CALL THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
    THE FILE IS ALREADY OPEN
    I WAS GOING TO LET THAT GO
    THOUGHT IT WAS JUST ANOTHER STUPID THING
    TO LOWER THEMSELVES TO THESE TACTICS
    BUT I GOT A CALL FROM ANOTHER SITE OWNER YESTERDAY
    AND HE SAID
    HEY -0- THEY ABSOLUTELY CALLED ME AND TOLD HIM NOT TO PUT TNT ON HIS BOARDS
    AND THAT I'D BE ON A BLACK LIST AND CAN'T CASH OUT
    AND JUST LIKE THEY DID TO OKIE
    AND TO TOP THAT OFF
    THEY TOLD HIM THAT HE HAS RED DOT ON HIS BACK
    HE'S HERE AND DON'T KNOW IF HE WANTS TO COME ON
    I GOT IT
    MONTHS AGO
    IN DANGER
    AND NOW YOU ARE CALLING OTHERS AND TELLING THEM THEY ARE IN DANGER
    IF YOU DON'T ENDORSE YOUR GROUP
    WHO WOULD GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS
    IF IN FACT THEY WOULDN'T GET SOMETHING OUT OF IT
    THREATEN THEM, THE FAMILY MEMBERS
    EVER HEARD OF THAT
    IF YOU DON'T GIVE THAT GUY A LOAF OF BREAD I'LL SHOOT YOU IN THE HEAD

    I THOUGHT I WAS DONE W/ THIS MESS AND THEM
    BUT EVEN BEFORE THEY WERE TELLING PPL NOT TO AGREE W/ ME
    BUT YOU DON'T CALL A SITE OWNER AND THREATEN THE FAMILY AND THE SITE OWNER
    DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ANYONE
    I DIDN'T MAKE THIS UP
    BUT YOU SAW THIS AND READ IT YOURSELF
    HE CAN COME ON AND TELL YOU HIMSELF
    PAM'S NOT MY REAL WIFE, BUT TELLS ME WHAT TO DO, LIKE MY REAL WIFE
    I DID TELL YOU ALREADY

    2 THINGS THAT I AM NOT GOING TO TELL YOU - THAT DO PERTAIN TO THE RV
    BUT DON'T THINK ANY GOOD WOULD COME OF IT
    NOT A THREAT TO NATL SECURITY
    BUT IT WOULD AFFECT THE WAY THE WORLD LOOKS AT US
    BUT EVERYTHING ELSE WOULD STILL MAKE SENSE
    W/OUT YOU KNOWING THE LETHAL PART
    WED. THERE WERE MEETINGS IN DC
    TO TRY TO BRING IT TO A CONCLUSION
    OUR BIG QUESTION UP TO TODAY
    WHATS HOLDING IT UP
    WHATS THE MISSING INGREDIENT
    GOT TO LOOK AT THE BIG PIC
    ONLY 1 COUNTRY DOESN'T PRODUCE THEIR OWN OIL
    TO SUSTAIN
    AND THAT'S CHINA
    IRAQ AND US IS IN IT
    ALL ALONG THE RATE THING
    3. TO 25.87
    IT COULD START HIGHER THAN 25.87
    AND IT WILL DEF. GO HIGHER THAN 25.87

    THERE WERE LOTS OF WARS
    MEETINGS IN OFFICES
    NOT PHYSICAL WARS
    AND LOTS OF THINGS TO GET US WHERE WE ARE NOW
    THERE WAS A REASON FOR THAT
    TO STIMULATE OUR ECONOMY
    AND HEARD OUR PRES. WAS HOLDING IT UP
    AND THAT EVERYONE WAS READY EXCEPT HIM
    AND HE SAID NO
    NO
    FOR SELFISH REASONS GET ELECTED, ETC..
    AND ALL THAT WENT BY
    AND STILL HELD UP
    IF HE WAS DOING THAT TO BE RE-ELECTED
    WHY NOT THE DAY AFTER
    LETS GO
    OR TO USE IT FOR HIS BENEFIT
    STIMULATE THE ECONOMY
    BE THE GREATEST PRES. IN HISTORY
    BUT NONE OF THAT HAPPENED EITHER

    AT THIS POINT HE WAS IN FACT HOLDING IT UP
    AND SOME THINK IT WAS FOR HIS LEGACY
    BUT HE LEFT HIMSELF A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME
    TO USE WHAT WILL BE FOR SO MANY
    BUT HE WILL CUT HIMSELF SHORT
    WHILE SOME CAN STILL LOOK AT IT LIKE THAT
    AND IN FACT
    THE GREATER REASON
    IS FOR US AND OUR COUNTRY TO ACHIEVE THE RATES
    AND RAISING THE CEILING LEVEL AND THE LEVEL THAT YOU
    AS DINARIANSGET TO START WITH

    IT WAS A HARD FIGHT TO GET IT THERE
    AND HE STILL DIDN'T REACH WHAT HE WANTED
    $30 TO START WITH
    NOT WITH THE INFO I HAVE TODAY
    UNLESS IT CHANGES IN 10 MIN.
    BUT IT WAS ALL FROM 3. TO 25.87 AND HIGHER BEFORE ITS ANNOUNCED
    AND THAT'S NOT EASY TO ACCOMPLISH

    SO YOU ARE GETTING 9 TIMES
    9 TIMES MORE
    IF HE HADN'T FOUGHT FOR YOU
    IT WILL LAST LONGER
    STIMULATE THE ECONOMY
    AND MORE FOR OUR DEBT ETC..
    AND MORE FOR THE PROGRAMS
    IT WILL SOUND LIKE ME PROMOTING HIM
    BUT ITS GOING TO GIVE HIM THE $ TO REBUILD AMERICA
    IT WASN'T ALL ABOUT THAT
    SO DON'T THINK THAT EITHER
    THAT'S ONE OF THE BENEFITS
    SO WE KNOW IT WAS A HARD FIGHT
    SO THE NUMBERS ARE THERE
    AND YOU SAW THIS IN THE FORUM
    THAT HE COULDN'T USE THIS MONEY
    UNTIL 2 DAYS AGO
    HE COULDN'T USE IT
    BUT NOW IT CHANGED 2 DAYS AGO
    NOW HE CAN USE IT WHEN IT RV'S BUT NOW
    OUR COUNTRY WASN'T ABLE TO BARGAIN WITH IT
    THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO
    BUT NOW THEY CAN
    THE OTHER THING
    CHINA AND IRAQ HAS A DEAL BEHIND OUR BACK
    AND IRAQ IS SHIPPING OIL TO THEM
    6.00 A BARREL
    BUT TO THE US AT 18 A BARREL
    MILLIONS OF BARRELS A DAY
    AND THAT GAP HAD TO BE CLOSED
    IT WASN'T EASY

    EXPOSING IT AND REDOING THAT DEAL
    OUT OF THE DEAL
    IRAQ STILL GETS 70% OF THE OIL OUT OF BASRA AND KIRKUK
    (TONY CORRECTS HIMSELF LATER IN THE CALL )
    CHINA WANTS OIL NOT MONEY
    THEY WILL BE THE BIGGEST IMPORTERS OF OIL
    THEY DIDN'T CARE ABOUT THE MONEY
    EVERYONE ELSE IS GREEDY ABOUT THE MONEY
    I GUESS I SAID IRAQ
    CHINA GETS OIL FROM BASRA AND KIRKUK
    CHINA IS NOT AUTHORIZED ANY DINAR
    TO BUY IT
    OR ANYTHING ELSE
    SO IN FACT THE GROUP DEAL WITH CHINA
    THE ONE IN... WELL ONE GROUP DEAL...IS A TRUE DEAL
    THE ONLY THING I GOT OUT OF THE MEETING
    WAS THAT THE RATE WAS LOWERED
    BECAUSE OF THE STUFF THAT HAPPENED
    THE ONLY NEGATIVE I GOT OUT OF THERE
    THE ONLY WAY TO GET ADDITIONAL DINAR
    WAS TO DO THE GROUP
    THE INFO ON HOW THE GROUPS HAVE BEEN OPERATING
    AND ITS IN WASHINGTON, AND THE UST
    AND SOME CHINESE PPL HAVE HEARD ABOUT IT
    AND TELLING YOU SOME MIND BLOWING STUFF
    GOT INFO FROM THEM
    AND PH. CALLS DIRECT FROM THEM
    RELAYING MESSAGES TO ME
    FROM THEM
    FROM UST, FROM DC, AND FROM THE CHINESE FAMILY
    SOMEONE THAT IS DIRECT FROM THE FAMILY
    AND PASSED ALONG THE MESSAGE FROM THEM TODAY
    AND IT IS AGAIN

    YOU WOULD KNOW
    I'M AN ORDINARY CITIZEN
    BUT THE FACT THAT 6 DEGREES OF SEPARATION
    HAS GONE TO 1, OR 2 DEGREES IS MIND BOGGLING
    AND NOT BE PART OF A GOVERNMENT OR CULTURE
    IS MIND BOGGLING
    BUT IT LETS ME KNOW
    NOT THAT I AM DOING THE RIGHT THING
    BUT A TEAM OF PPL THAT ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING
    AND TRUSTED WITH THE INFO
    AND ALOT OF THIS COMES WITH THANK YOU
    S
    THE OTHER BANKS WERE NOT ABLE TO HAVE THE SAME RATE
    AS WF

    BUT BECAUSE OF THE INFO WE PUT OUT
    THE PLAYING FIELD HAS BEEN LEVELED
    AND THE INFO WE GOT THIS MORNING
    THE BRIEFING THIS MORN.
    WF PREFERS YOU TO NOT BE PART OF GROUPS
    FORM YOUR OWN GROUPS
    INDIVIDUALS TO COME IN
    NOT MASSES
    10-12 AT A TIME
    INDIVIDUALS TO COME IN AT A TIME
    AND I'LL GIVE YOU THIS
    DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER
    THEY ARE GOING TO CASH OUT 1 NOTE FOR YOU
    OTHER THAN YOUR APPT.
    THEY WERE INSTRUCTED TO CASH OUT ONE NOTE
    OTHER THAN THE APPT.
    AND FIND OUT NOW THE DENOMINATION
    OR LIMIT TO THAT
    THE OTHER THINGS
    THE RATE HAS BEEN DOWN
    YOU SHOULD KNOW THE MIN. RATE
    IS 25.87
    30 DAYS IS STILL IN PLAY

    AND THE ONLY THING DIFF.SO FAR
    IS THEY STILL WANT YOU TO CASH OUT IN 30 DAYS
    AND ANY STRAGGLERS WILL BE GREATLY REDUCED
    TO MAYBE 3.68
    AFTER THE 30 DAYS
    A DRAMATIC FALL ON THAT DAY
    NOT BEFORE
    SO THE AGREEMENTS WERE MADE THUR. NI TE
    TRIED TO PUSH IT THROUGH BEFORE SOMETHING HAPPENED
    AND THAT NIGHT --- FRI. MORN
    A DEAL WAS MADE
    A SNOOKER DEAL
    IT WAS MADE IN BETWEEN TIMES
    AND ( LOL ) THEY ARE PUTTING ON THE BOARD THAT THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING
    IF YOU DON'T HAVE ALL THE PIECES OF THE PUZZLE
    TOO DEEP FOR EVERYBODY
    AND ANOTHER DEAL PUT IN PLACE
    WITH THAT
    AND SOME OTHER THINGS

    THERE ARE SOME EGO'S INVOLVED
    AND WANT YOU TO KNOW THEY ARE NOT THE TOP POSITION EGO'S
    THEY HAD DELEGATED THIS TO SOMEONE ELSE
    LOWER LEVEL PPL
    WHO HAVE A LOT OF POWER
    AND EGO'S THAT ARE JUST AS BIG
    AS THE PPL DOING IT
    AND THOUGHT THE LOWER LEVEL PPL COULD DO IT
    REMEMBER THE DEMS' AND REP'S, PUT 6 PPL TOGETHER
    BUT THESE GUYS HAVE EGOS AND NO ONE WANTS TO LOSE

    THEY WILL LET YOU CASH OUT
    1 25K NOTE BEFORE THE APPT.
    AND THEY FIGURE THAT'S ENOUGH BEFORE YOUR APPT.
    THAT'S FROM ONE BANK
    THIS IS JUST WF INFO
    GOT TO VERIFY THE OTHER BANKS
    THEY REITERATED THIS MORN
    THE 800#
    WILL ASK YOUR NAME
    EMAIL ADDRESS
    HOW MUCH DINAR YOU HAVE
    CASH OUT THAT DINAR
    AND THAT'S IT
    THEY WILL BRING YOU IN, NOT GIVE YOU THE RATE
    THIS IS A GROUP #
    THE RATE IS GIVEN AFTER YOU SIGN THE NDA
    TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT
    COUNT YOUR MONEY
    EVERYTHING ELSE IS DEALT WITH THE WEALTH MANAGER
    IE. TRUSTS ETC..
    IF YOU DIAL THE OTHER 800# YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS
    ITS YOUR CHOICE
    NOT TRYING TO INFLUENCE IT
    BUT DON'T LIKE THE WAY THEY DID IT
    IT IS A REAL GROUP
    HEARD THE RATE WAS LOWERED
    THEY DON'T KNOW
    THEY WEREN'T PART OF THE MEETING
    BUT ACCORDING TO THE MEETING, THE CAP WAS LOWERED
    AND ITS STILL NOT BAD
    BUT 25K NOTE
    DON'T HAVE THE INFO YET ON THE OTHER BANKS

    HOPEFULLY
    WE WILL HAVE THE INFO BEFORE THIS EVENING
    BUT BEFORE THE ANNOUNCEMENT
    TOLD YOU THERE WAS A LOT OF INFO
    TOLD YOU YESTERDAY WORE ME OUT
    WHAT ELSE WAS I SUPPOSED TO SAY?
    OH, I KNOW
    SUPPOSEDLY THIS AFTERNOON
    THEY ARE WAITING FOR IT AGAIN
    GOT A MEMO THIS MORNING
    THAT THEY CAN PASS OUT THE PAMPHLETS AND GIVE THEM THE 800#
    THIS IS AS OF THIS MORNING
    THAT THEY CAN DO IT AFTER THE ANNOUNCEMENT
    SO WE KNOW ITS CLOSE
    THEY CAN PASS OUT THE PAMPHLETS
    AS SOON AS ITS ANNOUNCED
    IF SOMEONE ASKS THEY ARE TO GIVE IT TO THEM AND CALL THE 800#
    AND ANOTHER BANK IN NC. THAT HAS THEIR PAMPHLET
    TOLD YESTERDAY
    NOT THE BIG 4
    BUT BIG ON THE SE
    AND
    GOT SOMEONE ON THE BOARD
    KEEP UP W/ THIS

    TO SEE IF YOU UNDERSTAND OR NOT
    WHERE ELSE WAS I SUPPOSED TO GO?
    CAME TO AN AGREEMENT
    STILL SUPPOSED TO BE DONE
    THE GOV. SHUTDOWN
    EVERYONE IS TRYING TO COME OUT LOOKING LIKE THEY ARE THE WINNER AND NOT THE LOSER
    AND THAT'S PART OF THE INFO I'M NOT TELLING YOU
    WE HEARD IN IRAQ YESTERDAY
    TO EXPECT SOMETHING THIS WEEKEND
    MEDIA BLACKOUT IN IRAQ
    AND NEWS MEDIA THERE AND WAITING FOR A MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT
    IT COINCIDES WITH WHAT WE ARE HEARING FOR THIS EVE. OR TOMORROW
    A MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT
    HOPEFULLY THIS IS IT
    AN HOUR AGO
    ONCE AGAIN THE GREEN LIGHT IS ON
    SO WHETHER THEY GET INTO ANOTHER ARGUMENT
    BEFORE WE SEE IT
    DON'T KNOW

    THE 800'S WILL BE RELEASED -SENDING THEM TO ME
    AND THEY WILL SEND THEM TO ME AND POST THEM ON THE BOARD
    PAM AND I HAVE BEEN LAUGHING AT THAT
    RAY: I DIDN'T LAUGH
    PAM: I DID
    T- PERSONALLY DID GET THE CALL, AND THE GUY IN WASHINGTON SAID THEY WERE GOING TO SEND ME THE NUMBERS, AND OTHER BOARDS, THEY ARE IN FACT SENDING THEM TO US, SO WE CAN BE THE SOUNDING BOARD, WE HAVE BEEN FOR A LONG TIME, AND DIDN'T KNOW IT...ANYWAY.... WE GOT BACK UP FROM DC. I'LL PUT IT THAT WAY
    FOUND OUT TODAY, THAT THEY WERE THAT INVOLVED WITH OUR SITE, EVERYONE SAYS THEY LISTEN, AND FROM DIFF. AGENCIES... HEY YOU KNOW THIS GUY, BUT WHEN YOU HEAR IT FROM CERTAIN PPL YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE IT, I GUESS ITS TRUE..
    I'M SURE I LEFT STUFF OUT

    I'VE GOT 3 PAGES OF STUFF
    GETTING BACK TO IRAQ
    THE 6, 18, 12, LOST IN THAT DEAL CAUSED A PROBLEM
    AND THE US COULDN'T USE THE IQD
    WAS A PROBLEM
    ALL THIS TIME COULDN'T USE IT
    AND THEN THE OIL CREDITS FOR CHINA AND THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THEY COULD GET THEM
    NOT JUST THE GROUP THAT DIALED THE 800# AND THE GROUP IN RENO
    I SAY THEEEE GROUP
    AND ONE GROUP I HAVE THE CONTRACT FOR
    THE GUY THAT IS INVOLVED IN IT
    THE ADMIRAL
    AND I TALKED TO HIM SEVERAL TIMES
    AND TALKED TO HIM FOR 2 YEARS
    AND I'LL SAY
    GOING OUT ON A LIMB HERE
    THAT GROUP
    CAN FEEL CONFIDENT IN

    WHO HE IS AND HIS RELATIONSHIP TO WASHINGTON
    AND THAT WAS AUTHORIZED BY OUR GOVERNMENT
    THERE ARE OTHER GROUPS THAT WERE NOT
    PPL THAT WERE ARRESTED
    MONEY LOST IN RENO
    FIND THAT OUT WHEN ITS ANNOUNCED
    MONEY NOT COMING BACK
    AND KNOW FOR A FACT
    THAT PPL AND THE RELATIONSHIPS
    AND THE CHINESE FAMILY IS NOT HAPPY
    WITH THE WAY OTHER GROUPS WERE DONE
    AND NOT HAPPY
    AND WASHINGTON, DC WAS ABSOLUTELY NOT HAPPY
    ONE OTHER LIMB HERE
    AND TELL YOU WHAT YOU'VE BEEN HEARING
    AND WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN HEARING
    ? WHICH ADMIRAL
    THERE IS REALLY ONLY ONE ADMIRAL, A, AND B, ETC...
    BUT -- DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL HIM, BUT BOB IS A GOOD GUY
    DEFINITELY A GOOD GUY
    HOLD ON
    PPL ARE TRYING TO CUT DEALS TO THE VERY END
    LETS GO TO QUESTIONS
    ? CAN'T GET PAMPHLETS TILL THE RV IS ANNOUNCED
    HOPEFULLY TODAY, THIS AFTERNOON SOMETIME
    HOPEFULLY
    I WILL TELL YOU THIS
    GIVE YOU THIS MUCH

    KEEP SAYING THAT I WILL TELL YOU EVERYTHING
    BUT WHAT I CAN TELL YOU
    THIS IS FOR MY OWN PROTECTION
    BUT WILL TELL YOU
    I KNOW I HAVE BEEN AUTHORIZED
    OR WILL BE ABLE TO EXPOSE EVERYTHING AT SOME POINT
    IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN A TIMELY MANNER
    I WILL BE AUTHORIZED
    SEND ME A TEXT, SAYING RIGHT
    WAITING FOR THE TEXT
    JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE
    ANYWAY, IF IT DOESN'T WE WILL GO TO THE NEXT LEVEL
    AND GIVE YOU SOME MORE
    SO I'LL START W/ PAM'S QUESTIONS

    PAPERBOYS
    PAM; ? ABOUT RESERVES
    T- DON'T KNOW GUYS, THINK THAT THEY COUNT WHAT YOU COME IN W/ AT THE TIME, WHEN WE WERE TALKING, PREACHER MAN, DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT HE SAID, IF YOU DO, SEND IT TO ME...
    T- PRETTY SURE HE DID SAY THAT, BUT DON'T KNOW HOW THEY WILL HANDLE THE RESERVES
    T- RIGHT WHAT????
    T- RIGHT? SO THEY TAKE WHAT YOU HAVE WHEN YOU COME TO THE APPT.
    DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WILL DEAL W/ THE RESERVES YET, BUT WE'LL TRY TO FIND OUT

    ? TONY YOU MENTIONED AGREEMENTS, W/ CONTRACTORS, HAVE WE EXCEEDED THE TIME FRAME:
    YES - IT COST US $310 T AND THE LAST EXTENSION WAS FOR 48 HORUS AND THEN ANOTHER 24 HOURS, AND EXTENDED THE CONTRACTS OUT, SAYING THE RV IS DONE, BUT AS FAR AS PUBLIC -- COULD HAVE BEEN, AS WE ARE BEING TOLD, LATER THIS EVEN. SO YOU ARE NOT STANDING AROUND, BUT SUNDAY OR MONDAY, BUT THINK WE ARE CLOSER THAN THAT, BUT AS THIS POINT IN TIME, THERE ARE 2-4 EGOS, EVEN THOUGH THEY AGREEMENT IS IN PLACE, THEY HAVE TO LOOK LIKE THEY WON, AND ITS NOT PRES. OBAMA, AND I'D TELL YOU IF IT WAS PRES. BUSH OR PRES. CLINTON, EITHER WAY, OUR PRESIDENTS RULE COUNTRIES BUT MONEY ACTUALLY RULES...BUT MONEY IS WHAT RULES THE WORLD, DON'T CARE WHAT POSITION YOU HAVE, AND PPL CAN BUY VOTES FOR OR AGAINST ANYTHING
    NOT GOING DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE
    ? EXPECT ACTIVITY OVER THE WEEKEND?
    YES I DO
    ? OPTIMUM TIME FRAME? THEY WILL DO THE OPPOSITE
    OK THEN, THE BEST TIME FRAME WAS LAST NIGHT AND THEN THEY'D DO IT NOW
    THEY GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT, THEY'LL DO IT, BECAUSE IN 5, 6 HOURS SOMETHING ELSE COMES UP.
    THE 5-6 HOURS IS RIGHT NOW, PPL NOTIFIED AND BANKS CALLED PPL IN AND EXTRA SECURITY FOR LATER TODAY
    AND WAIT AND SEE IF IT HAPPENS
    IN THE DARK OF THE NIGHT

    ? WHAT IS WF MOST CONCERNED ABOUT THIS MOMENT AND CHINA PUSH SO HARD
    T- THEY ARE CONCERNED ON YOU NOT FOLLOWING PROCEDURES AND DON'T WANT BANKS FLOODED, THEY DON'T WANT MASS HYSTERIA
    SOMEONE ASKED WHY I THINK 5 MILL PPL AND 2 YEARS AGO, DC GAVE ME THE NUMBERS OF 600K THOUSAND AND WHEN YOU GIVE OUT ONE NOTE TO OTHERS, DON'T YOU THINK THAT NUMBER HAS GROWN, AND YOU GIVE IT OUT THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT ITS ABOUT, ALL THEY KNOW IS MY AUNT GAVE ME THIS AND ITS WORTH MONEY AND SEE ALL THESE ZEROS AND DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE 800#S OR CASHING OUT ONE NOTE, IT WILL BE HYSTERIA... AND WF KNOWS IT
    ? BACK WALL DATE
    THE 17TH
    ?? RUMOR ON THE VNN NOTE IN THE BASKET??
    T- DONG IS IN THE BASKET
    ? IF BANK SHOWS 25. WILL CBI SHOW THE SAME
    HEARING THAT ITS AN INCOUNTRY RATE AND ITS FOR 30 DAYS--EVEN IF THEY DON'T CUT YOU OFF, THE RATE WILL BE CUT OFF
    ? VND - IQD, VNN, OR IQN
    YOU HAVE TO GO IN AND ASK FOR THE RIGHT SYMBOLS
    IF THEY TELL YOU ONE RATE
    LISTEN CAREFULLY
    AND KNOW THERE IS A HIGHER RATE AVAILABLE
    AND TELL YOU WHAT THAT IS
    THEY HAVE TO GIVE IT TO YOU
    THE BRANCH MIGHT HAVE TO MAKE A CALL, AND GET THE AUTHORIZATION TO GIVE IT TO YOU
    BUT THEY HAVE TO
    SO YOU HAVE TO TELL THEM, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT
    THOSE WERE CHAT ROOM QUESTIONS
    BUT THE FORUM HAS 4, 5 PAGES
    ? IN MY OPINION THE GOV. SHUTDOWN...DOLLAR DEVALUE.. STOCK MARKET... NOW WE HEAR THESE THINGS IN MAINSTREAM MEDIA....END RESULT...
    T- THEY ARE IN FACT DOING THINGS TO COVER THIS AND WILL TELL YOU, SAID IT EARLIER, THIS CAME OUT OF WASHINGTON, TRYING NOT TO GET IN TROUBLE, IF IN FACT, THEY DON'T WANT TO DO, AND NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN AND DON'T WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT WE ARE INVOLVED, 350 M WILL GO INTO HYSTERIA AND IT WASN'T 6 O'CLOCK NEWS, THEY DON'T WANT IT TO HAPPEN -- THEY DON'T WANT THE GENERAL PUBLIC, THAT ALL THESE POLITICIANS BECAME MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES AND IT ALL BOILS DOWN TO THE IRAQ WAR - THEY DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN -- NOT THREATENING ANYONE -- BUT ITS RECORDED, I'VE BEEN AUTHORIZED TO TELL YOU SOME STUFF, NEVER SEE ME ON THE NEWS AND WON'T BE EREK SNOWDEN OR OLLIE NORTH, BUT WILL DO MY PART
    ? WILL THERE BE NEGOTIATION ON THE VNN
    T- ABSOLUTELY, IF YOU KNOW THERE IS A HIGHER RATE, THEY HAVE TO GIVE IT TO YOU
    ? MEETINGS W/ CHINA AND THE USA
    T- WHOLE LOT OF MONEY HAD TO BE MOVED FOR EVERYONE TO STEP AWAY
    ? TALKING ABOUT THE IQN AND IQD AND VP'S OF BANKS, SAYING NO IQN OR VNN AND NO SYMBOLS...WHERE YOU CHECK THE SYMBOLS
    T- GUYS ITS STILL NOT PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE - BUT VP'S AREN'T PRIVILEGE WITH ALL THE INFO YET, THEY WEILL BE JUST AS SHOCKED AS YOU ARE, AT THE OPPORTUNITY AS YOU ARE--- THE CALL CENTERS AND EXCHANGE CENTERS ABSOLUTELY SEE IQN AND VNN - FOR THOSE AUTHORIZED TO SEE IT -- DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT -- YOU HAVE MORE INFO THAN THEY DO
    ? OFF BANKING
    T- BANKS DO SWEEP ACCTS. 22 DAYS A MONTH AND GET 1% ON THEM, AND CITY AND COUNTY PROGRAMS THAT USE THEM AND PARKING LOTS FOR THE CITY'S ETC.... TO PUT $$ IN NIGHTLY, YOU WILL NOT GET THAT... HOW DO YOU THINK BANKS MAKE HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, NO BANK IN THE WORLD THAT'S GOING TO GIVE YOU 10 % INTEREST, YOU CAN ASK FOR 5% A YEAR, BUT NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU 10% THEY WON'T GIVE YOU 5% --THAT'S 60% ON YOUR MONEY, THEY'LL GIVE YOU BETTER THAN AVERAGE - BUT IT WILL BE YEARLY, NOT NIGHTLY
    DON'T MISINTERPRET WHAT I SAID, I TOLD YOU HOW THEY MAKE MONEY AND WHAT THEY GET BACK ON IT, AND WON'T SHARE IT WITH YOU, AND NOT EVERY BANKER KNOWS HOW THE SWEEP ACCTS ARE USED
    I DON'T PRETEND I KNOW EITHER, BUT I'VE BEEN PERSONALLY INVOLVED IN
    ? SUPPOSEDLY A VP ON OUR BOARD AND WOULD OFFER TO HELP WITH THAT, UNDER BANKING STRATEGIES
    THAT'S ENOUGH QUESTIONS
    TIRED OF TALKING
    TALK TO PPL
    LIVE Q & A
    C- how are you Tony
    t- tired
    c- if you know there is a higher rate, how do we know it?? take a gamble and....
    t- you can rely on some of the other members, what did I tell you about the first mouse....
    c- I remember
    t- might want to be the 2nd or 3rd mouse
    t- I'll try to help you as much as I can, i can't give you the ceiling rate, but can give you a floor rate - even if its a dollar extra, but rely on the ppl on the boards, and if everyone trys to get the ceiling rate, it won't be the ceiling rate any longer, it has to have room to climb and go on FOREX, they won't agree and it will cut down the 30 days and the 10-15 days when it goes up, and some will be caught w/ the pants down if you post the ceiling rate for the world to see
    next
    c- one note, but Dong??? anytime
    t- yes, no restrictions, only on the IQN
    c- use the dong to get the layaway out
    t- but everyone doesn't have the VNN to do that
    c- you mention the banks will pass out pamphlets out, after the announcement
    t- they were authorized this morn. to give it out when they get the 'GO'
    t- meetings yesterday, instructions, we'll see what happens
    next
    c- 2 ?s last dong rate
    t- 2.67 or 2.76 can't remember
    c- all over the boards yesterday, this bad bad man, know about it?
    t- the good guys won, they want to think the bad man is Pres. Obama, but he was an advocate.... even if I knew the bad man initials, I wouldn't tell you his name
    c- you think its today
    t- I thought it was yesterday, all this info, from all sources, that's what I like and all saying the exact same thing and saying they want to do it before something else happens, because of egos, it should have gone... it could go this afternoon, w/ Iraq telling their ppl and the media black out
    and no later than tomorrow...
    c- did you get more info
    t- yeah, and they are telling me SHUSSSSSSSHHHHHH
    LOL
    next
    c- how are you doing?
    t- super fantastic
    c- comment, the biggest conspiracy was the conspiracy of Jesus Christ, I was on an IQD call site and IQD CALLS . COM and week at a glance and clicked on your name, and a picture -- ex partners name -- and caution, and other face w/ a confused look with ? marks, and thought that was interesting, why put your ex partners picture on that particular site, started laughing, wasting energy trying to get you, but you follow your process, as soon as you know, via text
    t- I can send the text out from my pH
    t- Pam will be at the bank, and Montana will say ? Tony who? she'll be at the bank
    c- going to honor Okie
    t- still yes, absolutely and think he should, and tell him hurry up, cause I'm doing it now
    t- don't know about the 800#s - told this morning that there would be 3, 4 sites that will push them to the ppl, so it can get started and word of mouth will take over from there,,,
    c- we're excited

    next
    c- certain time, 2- 5, or 11- 2
    t- that's what I would look at,
    c- any speeches that we should look for
    t- don't know of any today or tonight, haven't heard of any meetings.... everyone is ready, all we can do is hope for the best
    t- the #s were in fact changed, the playing field was leveled, the agreements with china and the groups are real, that's the only way to get dinar and the group in Reno is real, and not thrilled how they have been portrayed, and will be worked out, and absolutely is a list in DC who will be prosecuted after its announced, that was re-iterated to me this morning.. heard that for 2 years and my name is not on the list and that's all i care about, and know who took advantage of ... and most will enjoy this
    c- been in it since March, my name is not on the list
    next
    c- anything on taxes
    t- nothing in law about taxes, the bank will NOT TAKE TAXES OUT AT ALL, they didn't break it down by the higher amt. we don't know what the tax will be --- do what I suggested, hold 50% back until you know whats going on
    c- so go for the higher rate? its up in the air now
    t- it is.... was asked to put the info out, if you had told me, I'd look at 11% versus 55% but there is something in the middle, so then I missed out on 2, 3 dollars...
    ( listen to the replay on this ) ( its one hour and 24 - 25 minutes into the call )
    when in doubt get the money.
    c- read that ppl say it doesn't matter if you say IQD OR IQN
    but can't go wrong by saying IQN
    t- right, why take a chance
    c- thank you and the mods
    t- thank you for being a member
    next
    c- short statement, she's been waiting since March, someone else did that the other day, and said she bought in June ----ROFL
    c- some guy named Tbone, at 3:47 pm this afternoon is a special time in history, make any sense to you????
    t- its in the window, its in this afternoons window
    c- how long can we go back and forth, till they lose .....its a risk for all involved
    t- i was told this morn, that if it continued on, I was going to be given info to pass on that it would be stopped.... so I don't think we have too much longer, think ppl are fed up
    c- share it w/ us know and none of us will tell
    t- no, they haven't shared it w/ me yet
    t- one of the things they don't want
    t- cross that bridge when we get to it
    next
    c- are we expecting Iraq to announce and then M. gone
    t- longer then the 30 days
    c- valid after the 30 days
    t- initially the 30 days was all the time frame
    c- but its still valid
    t- well, it wouldn't be, going to do that over there, but internationally, hearing today, that even if it is still valid, you will get the LOWEST RATE - nothing near what we will get for the 30 days
    c- better than zero
    t- would you exchange it at...
    c-
    t- better than nothing
    c- Jami Diamond,
    t- according to the info I got, he just stepped down
    c- was he a bad guy
    t- might be a crooked guy
    next
    TONY-- I SAID MAYBE -- NOT SURE -- JUST THAT HE STEPPED DOWN
    next
    c- you mentioned in past calls about some event that would happen 30 days post RV
    t- the rate is going to be good for 30 days, and the event i was talking about was Syria, and we've gone through, and if this happened... we don't need to talk about it
    c- ok
    t- ok
    t- the rate is good for 30 days
    c- whats the catch- high rate
    t- the catch is you get more money, and the gov get more money, we are the new middle class--nothing negative for giving you more money
    next
    c- you think O is holding this a leverage for the debt ceiling
    t- even though we see the theatre on TV, he's not using it, it can go both ways, as leverage for us to get a higher rate, and stimulate our economy and more to do the programs that he wants to do, and rebuild the country and assign it to raise the debt ceiling even though we'll have a surplus for years to come
    c- why worry about raising the debt ceiling
    t- in case this money is moved to hidden places, can't talk about, it will be
    t- not going to talk about those
    t- we have more money than ppl imagine, now, we have the $ to wipe out the deficit right now, and every admin. has, but in order to do that, they'd have to rob the piggy banks -- but why do that, cause they have to put it back, instead they play with a Little charge acct.
    t- its created out of thin air, and now its about basel3 and the imports, now you have to show the deal now, and be transparent for anyone to look at it
    c- blackbird posted on recaps and said about China being ticked off about rate difference,
    t- we are the only country getting this rate, but the whole thing was about who got oil for the last few years and the money we lost in barrels each day, the % given and how its to be transported from now on, and our rate was raised higher today, their percentage was, and it wasn't about money, they don't want money, they have enough money, they want to be in position to get the oil for years to come
    c- Chinese Gov. or Chinese elders
    t- it was some Chinese individuals, who flew over here and negotiated on Tues. and Wed. and there are ppl above the government
    c- are they the ones that saved big bucks and lost it
    c- remember you said on Wed. that some paid a bunch of money to get it to go through
    t- I don't know who paid it
    t- I do know who paid it
    t- tell you the amount that had to be signed over
    c- what was the amt.
    t- last Sun. 10T
    and on Tues. it was 300T
    c- to get the RV to go through
    t- to get the agreement to go through and to change between countries
    c- if it went past Oct. 1
    t- so they wouldn't have to start over
    c- Rupiah
    t- supposed to start at 1.08 yesterday
    t- fluctuates like everything else
    next
    c- earlier you talked about emails, I got one at 7:44 pm from KCMana, and to my email and it didn't address me directly and Gen/64, and I didn't give anyone my email address and it upsets me
    t- hold on
    t- forgot to tell you this so I was talking to ppl this morning and discussing this
    t- 3 THINGS THEY ARE GOING TO ASK
    YOUR NAME
    YOUR EMAIL
    AND HOW MUCH DINAR YOU HAVE
    there are 2 things that you can do, and know you are not part of it,
    DON'T DIAL THAT GROUP 800#
    if you think you have been compromised
    and you call the 800 #
    and get a NEW EMAIL ADDRESS to do this with
    so you don't have to worry about it.
    t- not saying its wrong, not the group, but the Chinese ppl, since Monday getting word to me, but if that is the # they give me, I'll have to post all the numbers, but the option is up to you -- I'll let you know who they are.... enough to let you know
    I don't think our system is hacked
    Don't know
    c- I did give it to PTR and Okie site
    t- if you had it on Okies site, that's it right there
    c- my family, just folks here that are involved, we plan on going independently to the banks, but how to avoid paying the spread -- didn't really get it, the banks =get paid anyway
    t- I know you are making money off this money - the bank will loan your money out - and up to 10 times and make interest off all of those, they are making money off of you, and do the sweep accts. every night, and say you are making more money and don't want the fee, and if you don't waive the fee, I'll go somewhere else, just go to another bank
    t- they've all been told DO NOT LET THEM WALK OUT WITH THE MONEY
    c- the forms FINCEN?
    t- they'll have them at the bank
    c- can we do something special for the MODS post RV
    t- absolutely
    c- they work long hours, not as long as you, lol
    t- yes they do
    c- and they keep you in line
    t- that alone
    t- if you can think of something, I'll do something special for them in Vegas, but from you -that would be
    c- am I the only one that noticed John Kerry had Botox
    t- don't know
    c- he was shriveled up like a barnacle
    and now he looks like he was eating peaches
    t- ask the ladies
    c- we are making history and so exciting for me, wow, your name is going down in history
    t- only the dinarians will know
    c- how do you do a blast and go to sleep at night - that's exciting
    t- telling you to go about your day and its so close and then we don't see it, and its fluid
    t- got it planned out
    c- not about us
    t- that's right
    c-God Bless

    next
    c- flash43 - trying to tie together when you go from the RV to what shows up at the CBI site, lets say they are at 3.44 and so if the RV happens and I were to look at their site and ours would be 25.87
    t- don't know, it makes sense to me for it to show up as 25.87
    t- ppl over there were getting 25.87 and the contractors were getting that, we talked to the boss
    t- not talking to ppl on the street, but the guy who owns the company and he tells us whats going on
    t- don't know whats going to happen on CBI
    t- no one told me the rate that its going to go, but makes sense for during the 30 days - that the other countries saw the 25.87 and after the 30 days it goes down to the agreed upon rate
    c- confused, international rate, on forex, we know, that there is now way, that the Iraqi citizen is getting 25.87, they need it to be a one to one -- if the dollar goes up, and if we get that against the dinar, then our money ...
    t- let me ask you -- you are in Iraq and you are a citizen, it takes 25 of your dinar to equal a dollar, why would you want that
    c- not that, but the dinar being equal to the USD, to start off for inflation purposes
    t- and i"m telling you that the contractors in Iraq exchange - for 25. that they bring here, and back here its 25. over there its 1, it doesn't effect it, no one will trade for the lesser ....
    c- so with that ceiling thing work out behind closed doors, how does the RV affect it
    c- we know about the oil contracts
    c- as far as wiping out the debt ceiling and the stimulus
    c- will it show as no longer in debt to the GCR
    t- could be basel3 - economy stimulated and pay it down, can't wipe it out in one day, just that the debt ceiling is raised and new budget, paying for infrastructure... and 6, 8 months down the road -- look how our debt disappeared, not instant thing, everyone knows when the RV is announced, there is more money hidden than our debt is, they can raise it 10- times, there is enough money back there - not to matter, but we have to operate in front of 350 m. other ppl that don't know what we know
    c- so the same about the budget being passed, something worked out, so the gov. doesn't have to shut down
    t- the budget was agreed to months ago, and the budget # agreed to and reduced it to the # you want' - its not about the budget, its about the other stuff, we know the RV is coming and the $ put into surplus programs, so its not the real argument, there is something else that ppl don't want to see, and those clearly looking can see it, its not about the budget or the debt ceiling, they announced it, there will be no argument, that's not what the shut down is about
    c- if in fact the RV happens, the political situation, let a clean resolution go through for the budget to be used
    t- if it hasn't been worked out, it will be, there is nothing else to do, if it took till the 17th, the budget has to be passed and the argument is old and everyone will come to the realization of what its about, and played cat and mouse and how do we get out of this mess without everyone saving face
    c- makes sense, have a great day
    OK guys
    THAT'S IT
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    TRANSCRIBERS ARE TIRED
    LOTS OF INFO
    SOME UNDERSTOOD
    AND SHOULD HAVE GIVEN YOU A BIGGER PICTURE OF WHERE WE ARE
    AND WHO WAS HOLDING IT UP
    AND WHY
    AND THE FACT THAT THE LAST 48 HOURS WE GOT A GREEN LIGHT TWICE
    AND THEY ARE LEARNING TO SHORTEN THE TIME
    BETWEEN GREEN LITE AND GO
    AND TODAY IS A SHORTER PERIOD THAN THURS. NIGHT
    WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE INK TO DRY
    AND WE ARE CLOSE ENOUGH NOW
    THE BANKS ARE NOTIFIED
    AND TOLD TO BRING THE PPL IN LATER THIS AFTERNOON
    BE READY
    TOLD TO WORK THIS WEEKEND
    WENT THROUGH FINAL TRAINING YESTERDAY
    OVERVIEW THIS MORN.
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    ONE BANK
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    TONY'S CONDENSED CC NOTES FROM 10-15-2013

    Post by Admin on Sat Oct 19, 2013 12:29 am

    TONY’S CONDENSED CC NOTES FROM 10-15-2013



    Everything that is required for the RV is done except activation!

    CBI is closed for EID holiday nice time to change the rate

    Iraq has been done since April when it was supposed to happen. It was supposed to be done before the US gov't shut down and debt limit debate, but now they're tied together. The deal is done to reopen the government.

    3:00 EST O will get the new bill, 4:00 will be a meeting at UST and we can see the RV live after that.

    Government changes coming.

    Still high rate.--30 days in question, don't know if the high numbers will hold for the 30 days

    Banks are not able to negotiate...right now they do have a time to be in for CE today.

    Tony saying it will be MUCH later this evening---

    Get prepared right now, know plan, have stuff ready, such as your currencies, gift letters, trusts (if you have them prepared), accounts set up....basically work on the last items of your plan.

    Tony says both sides in our situation started feeling some pain. People from outside our country made a difference said "you're affecting more than your family and friends now."

    Can't negotiate the rate, but can say I am not paying bank spreads/fees

    One question to ask before setting the appointment, 'can they verify your dinar on site?' If not, ask for a different place that can BEFORE making the appointment.

    They tried to do the GCR yesterday at 8:30 AM EST Tuesday.

    Can you say if they were planned to have 800 out on 17th?

    T: It was supposed to be 8:30 yesterday morning

    Some whales have double dipped, but do NOT let it bother you, as they will not be allowed to affect the rate.

    If they (vip's) cashed out at 20+ and the rate came out low--they would have to give back the difference

    Additional meetings in DC--that you do not see in the media--things got resolved

    7 families own the FED, which owns 153 central banks. That's the PTB, and no, they don't want these changes.

    Only question Tony sees is after Obama signs the bill and the UST has it's meeting at 4:00 EST today, how much time will it take before we get the release of the GCR?

    Tony hearing the dealers will do the market rate and not the CBI rate, but he's not sure what that really means.

    Tony says if the House does not pass the bill, the IMF will step in at a later date to force the RV, and that would be the lower rate along with some pain.

    Tony will not say if that IMF action will be 2013 or in 2014, but it would involve more pain for all.

    NOTE: Many still say this is our week and we will get the higher rate, so do not let the last statements concern you)

    Tony saying: you don't have all the info right now. ...a lot of misunderstanding of this and the back ground info that I have helps it to make sense to me but you don't have that info...and I try to give you what I can.

    Tony just gave a big hint...caller was asking how the richest nation in the world could continue without being on the world stage, and Tony said something to the effect of 'it's not that far off...EVEN if you have to wait until FRIDAY'

    C: did the admin. get what they wanted so we aren't left hanging for 6 weeks?

    T: nobody got what they wanted

    C: otherwise, we could be waiting another 6 weeks

    Tony:...oh no.. we are getting the RV this afternoon after the Pres signs off. Then it is clear sailing

    There is a definite plan to make the RV happen this week. If that plan is not followed, there is a definite back up plan to force it to happen later, but still this week, as per Tony.

    Summary of call: all is done ... the technical part ... banking part ... call centers ... one final briefing before it goes live ... 800 # ready ... plan to go live between this evening and 72 hours later ... look for what happens in DC this afternoon ... if Obama signs ... then over to UST ... and then we should have the green light ... rates have not changed ... he will enjoy the rest of the day but be on the phone ... if there's any change, he will do a blast ... call is over.

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    KTFA's Frank26 Tuesday Night CC Notes 10/15/2013

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    KTFA's Frank26 Tuesday Night CC Notes

    10/15/2013


    BulldogFord65 » October 15th, 2013, 9:36 pm • [Post 44] Hello Family: here are the notes from tonight's CC; blessings to each of you!

    Frank26 IQD Conference Call after Bible Study Tuesday, October 15, 2013

    IQD update

    • Frank did a high-level review of the calls from Sunday and Monday

    • Frank clarified the subtle differences in the view of Eagle1, Nova and himself;
    ...
    Nova believes there will be adjustment of many currencies, but he does not know how many;

    Eagle1 believes there will be adjustment of all 198 global currencies (although some may not change or the change will be miniscule);

    Frank believes there are “pillar” currencies that other currencies piggy-back on, or are pegged to, which will adjust and take the others with them

    Bluestar came on the call at this point

    • (connection lost to Bluestar for a couple of minutes)

    • Bluestar recapped what he believes is the deal being worked out to get the debt limit raised and the govt back to work

    • Bluestar’s opinion is that a large number of Reps in the House are meeting in committee until they have the number for votes on Republican side, then they will send the bill from the House to the Senate where in Bluestar’s opinion they probably already have an arrangement, and it will get forwarded onto O, hopefully will see the evidence by Thursday

    • Frank’s opinion is that the govt may come back and get organized a bit before we see at rate; Bluestar agreed

    • Frank asked Bluestar if he’s heard this will be postponed to Feb 2014; Bluestar has not heard this; both Frank agrees with Nova that we have the G20 and Iraq here now, and they will not send them away just to call them back in another month

    • Frank believes there will be a grand show to pose and gain public opinion and power

    • Frank believes that trillions are being moved around the world and banks are clearing their debt but it’s none of our business and it’s not public; there’s no way out, there are no other options than to go further in to monetary reform;

    don’t ever forget it’s about control – the taxation of the middle class is power and control; control comes from debt; it’s not about the money in the bank, it’s about the debt of nations and individuals

    • O wanted a 61-11 bomb which is normally tested over water, but he wanted it tested over Nevada to see the effects of an EMP; Frank warned against conspiracy theories about this, leave it alone, let it rest

    • An article in the WSJ about China rice production is slipping coupled with article from Japan, showing their currencies are about to adjust

    • The stock market is not going to crash, do not worry about this

    • In Frank’s opinion, he does not believe the RV will happen this week

    • I Team report from today: regarding the RV, no one knows the date, but we are close; I Team believes this is the storm before the RV, and we are witnessing the world beginning to work together;

    I Team said it’s gone to total silence, and Frank asked if it’s because the people they secure are in DC? There was silence…. (which is understood as agreement)

    Frank ended the call with prayer, and Andy lifted the prayer with the shofar horn blast


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    KTFA's Frank26 Monday Night CC Notes 10/15/2013

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    KTFA's Frank26 Monday Night CC Notes

    10/15/2013




    BulldogFord65 » October 15th, 2013, 7:43 pm • [Post 26] Hello Family: here are the CC notes from Monday night

    Frank26 IQD Conference Call after Investment Night Monday, October 14, 2013

    IQD update

    • Frank began with a review of some of the information shared on Sunday night’s emergency call

    • Frank then brought Nova onto the call; Nova is purchasing a bank and has direct experience with the UST, IMF, WB, etc.

    • Frank stated that in his opinion, Janet Yellen is being brought back into the FedRes at this time as she and Jack Lew worked together in the Clinton administration when the KWD RI’ed; he believes they are tasked to work on the GCR
    ..
    • Nova observed that it’s very interesting that people who went thru the KWD RI during the Clinton administration have been brought back at this time, and they are likely a part of the GCR team,

    however the bigger picture is that the top 20 countries of the world monetary reform managers, central bankers financial leaders and nation leaders were all invited and have converged on Wash DC last week

    • Frank observed that it seems odd that our govt is shut down rather shouting and bragging about this great meeting

    • Nova stated that in his opinion, whenever the final items are checked off and complete, the AoP will flip the switch, no matter what day it is or what time it is;

    history may lead one to conclude that certain days or time of day is prime to see an announcement, but in his opinion, the GCR can be done any day at any time;

    while we are studying all we can about this investment, in his opinion, we should not get hung up on one specific item and say when that item is done, the RV must occur; it’s more nuanced than that, and ultimately we do not know what all is on the checklist to be done

    • Nova asked an associate who deals with the Chinese concerning cyber attacks/hacking, and he asked his friend if we know the Chinese are breaking into our system and they know we are breaking into theirs, what do we do?

    His friend replied that they try to put out misinformation and false leads to keep the Chinese running in circles – Nova believes this applied to the GCR as well,

    there is a purposeful campaign of disinformation; when we receive intel from a source that does not happen as laid out, it’s not that the source is being deceitful,

    it’s that they only know what they have been told, and those at the top are purposefully circulating misinformation;

    in Nova’s opinion, the key is to watch what they DO more so that what they say – example of Jack Lew going to O for his signature on the law that is over 100 years old that allows the USA to do business in foreign currency; Nova believes this is very significant in his opinion;

    what we do not know is how much more needs to be done, but this allows for the UST for the first time to allow the US to deal in currency other than the USD

    • Does this directly mean that the IQD is going to RV? No, not directly, but look at all of the things that have happened since June 27 –

    it paints a picture that something much bigger is going on which in KTFA we refer to as the GCR (this is not an official term, but what we are dubbing it at KTFA);

    we now have an agreement to business together in foreign currencies, and currency swap – no longer necessary for other nations to exchange first into USD, they can trade in their own currencies directly; so what does this mean?

    • The same people that control the European central banks also control the Federal Reserve, and they are allowing or entering into an agreement with the Chinese – why?

    Then couple that with the govt shut down and Lew implementing a 100 year old law – put it all together and in Nova’s opinion, we are watching the most significant shift in currency power in the world,

    and a part of the shift in power will include the IQD RV and RV of other currencies; in Nova’s opinion we will look back one day and realize the complexity of all that happened, and that our investment was only a small part of it

    • Along this same track, how can we say there have been delays? Who knows what is on the checklist, what has been done and what is left to do?

    No one but those directly involved and managing the plan know that, so we cannot talk of delays because we don’t know what is left to do; some of the smartest people in the world are working on shifting global economics

    • There are many countries teetering on the brink of financial collapse: Japan, China, Russia, EU -- some of these problems make the USA’s problems look small;

    if the USD collapsed tomorrow, Japan would collapse and Asia follows; the USD has lost over 3 ½ % over the last 3 months, has anyone felt it?

    This is an economic balancing act of unbelievable proportion

    • Frank asked Nova who showed up in DC for this top 20 country meeting? Nova replied there are a couple of interesting meetings per year, Jackson Hole and the G20, but what is really interesting are some fringe meetings – PIMCO wealth management, BoA, WF, Merril Lynch, Chase –

    it was not just a gathering of govt guys getting together, it included financial institutions, and Turki was invited to come

    • Who attended can be found in Bloomberg, but what is so interesting is what has transpired, the group that attended and then the shut down of the US govt?? something of global proportion is happening

    • Jamie Dimon’s “retirement” was not anticipated, but the fines they have to pay are inconsequential to Chase

    • The things the UST can do during the partial shut down and O’s signature on implementing the 100 yr old currency law are things that could NOT happen if the US govt was up and running!

    In Nova’s opinion, at the end of the day, no one wants any nation to collapse, so they are trying to rebalance the world’s currencies and level the playing field, then it’s each country for themselves –

    if we don’t fix our problems, then we will go down but it will not trigger collapse in other nations, the impact will be less than it would now – the same with other nations, if they go down, it will not jolt global finances as it would today;

    included in this was the 5 day banking shut down in Panama, this is another telling piece of the puzzle, in his opinion it was purposeful and planned

    • Frank stated that I Team reported last week on a “spread” in the ME, but it’s not the same as what we are familiar with; Frank said when we make agreements for currency swap, the question is at what rate?

    • Nova stated we don’t know what the deals are between the various countries and central banks, and in Nova’s opinion we likely will never know the details – it is not something that is talked about, it’s no one’s business, and he’s skeptical of anyone claiming to know;

    Nova said if we who are invested in the IQD are able to take $1000 and turn it into $1,000,000 or $3,000,000 or whatever the rate is, why do we care what anyone else makes??

    What business is it of ours?? Why should we care how much WF makes?? How is that any of our business?? We shouldn’t care, and it’s none of our business; in Nova’s opinion,

    what I Team heard about the spread was likely talk between themselves of excitement over the deal they made for themselves; these people, the central banks need to make more money than we do or it does not work

    • Nova stated the press release announcing Turki was coming to DC was interesting because it said Turki and a delegation were coming; Frank interjected that I Team believe the CBI board has gone to DC because they do not see them in Iraq at this time

    • Frank believes the shut down of the US govt is to hide this meeting, and said we shout at Iraq to reform their currency, don’t use the USD, follow article 8, etc;

    Frank asked Nova if with our govt shut down, is the USA article 8 compliant? Nova replied that with the govt shut down, we can do things and push things thru that we could not if the govt was running,

    so with the govt shut down, the UST can do what it needs to do and remain article 8 compliant, but we would not be article 8 compliant if the govt was open and running

    • Frank said M has now been invited to DC, but he’s the last one invited

    • Nova said there are so many things happening now; Nova stated that the CBI and the ISX have never closed down for a week during a holiday;

    Nova said people are taking one little thing like a holiday or bank closure and then when it reopens and there’s no rate, everyone is depressed – we cannot do that because we don’t know what’s on the checklist –

    but all the things that are happening globally is evidence that something is huge is going on, and we should just sit back and watch it unfold, and one day we will sit back and say “wow”

    • Frank asked if there is also orchestration going on for a soft landing for the USD? Nova replied there are 3 camps – the “oblivious” that believe the USD will not change, life goes on;

    another camp that believes the USD will be crushed and martial law enacted; and a third camp that sees this as an orchestration of a shift in the currency power of the world, but not necessarily to 1 country, more of a balancing

    • Frank asked if we can tell China to go jump in the lake? Nova replied we don’t want to do that – we want to have a few currencies in the world with equitable trade, with health and strength so that no one currency in the world can take down the entire global economy; after this if we don’t fix our problems, we will go down, but we won’t take the world with us

    • Frank asked if it the FedRes or UST that’s more involved? Nova’s opinion is that both are involved; Frank’s opinion is that the FedRes and UST will slowly merge into one;

    Frank asked about whose signatures are required on the agreements now being signed? Nova stated again that in our emergency state of govt shut down, we can do things we could not do otherwise and remain article 8 compliant

    • Nova stated that from the time that Shabibi was at the Jackson Hole meetings, the Chinese RMB was agreed as a “support currency;” what does that mean?

    Central banks around the world will hold RMB as a reserve to their balance sheets; now with the G20 meetings, we have Turki and Iraq coming in, this is significant; in Nova’s opinion, we need a handful of support or reserve currencies to assure that if any country fails, the impact will be limited

    • Frank said he is praying for a soft landing of the USD; Nova said in his opinion, too many people are putting too much weight on our UST and that we’re waiting on the UST to pull the trigger –

    if we buy into the term of GCR (and Nova stated he does not buy into that term), but this is a world event, so we need to take a step back and say who is controlling it, and ask is the UST doing the things it needs to do for this world event?

    In Nova’s opinion, this is what we are seeing with Jack Lew, the govt shut down and the implementation of the 100 yr old law allowing the US to do business in foreign currency – in his opinion, we are seeing the UST do its part in this world event for whomever is in control

    • Nova stated the people that control the central banks of Europe also control the central banks of Iraq, Kuwait, Libya, Japan and USA – do we really think they want any of these countries to collapse?

    • Frank said all the evidence points to something happening on a global scale

    Bluestar came on the call at this point

    • In Bluestar’s opinion what is going on in DC is “very bad theatre” and what we’re seeing happen now was decided/planned about 6 months ago, in his opinion; Bluestar’s opinion is that on Tues morning, the House will send a bill to the Senate, and the Senate will approve on Wednesday and govt reopen on Thursday

    • Nova agrees that in his opinion this whole show has been planned out for some time; Nova agrees there will be a balancing of world currencies, only the term “GCR, global currency reset” is a term that has been developed in the dinar world, it’s not referred to as such by the IMF or AoP

    • Frank’s opinion is that whomever controls the debt of a nation or of a person, holds the power; Bluestar agreed that the PTB love to see Americans dependent on entitlements (food stamps, welfare) because it enslaves the people and puts them under the govt control

    • Nova stated that the USA is not the only nation in deep debt, the world is broke, China is very deeply in debt, and due to their media control, most are not aware of how serious it really is, China is broke; the only way that the people at the top, the AoP is going to continue to reap the interest is to rebalance the world’s currencies;

    if any country goes down now, we all go down – all nations owe their soul to the same bank, to the same people at the top of the pyramid, and the only way they continue to generate wealth and hold control is to rebalance all the world’s currencies

    • Frank observed that in his opinion, banks only care about how much debt they can load people with so they can take as much as possible; Bluestar stated again all that’s going on in DC is contrived theatre, remember that only 15% of the US govt is shut down, not the entire govt, so this is more about show than substance

    • Nova and Bluestar both agree in their opinions all of the world’s currencies will be rebalanced or reset at once – the switch will be flipped and all will revalue up or down, the question is when and how much (date and rate), and that is unknown;

    Nova stated in his opinion we don’t know if all 198 global currencies will revalue or not – if the Columbian Peso does not RV, who cares?? If some small nation in Africa does not RV, who cares??

    Frank stated that even if a nation’s currency does not revalue, they will be supported and strengthened by those that do

    • Nova asked if anyone has noticed or asked the question how did the govt have signs up stating closure due to debt ceiling/sequestration within 24 hours of the event?? It appears it was planned and they were ready for it to happen

    • Bluestar believes there will be resolution to the debt on Wednesday, and in his opinion, anytime thereafter is most interesting; he believes the deal is already brokered whether the GCR happens right away or next month or into next year

    • Frank said his current timeframe of study is through Oct 18

    • Nova commented that he is not in any way stating that the currency reset is happening at this time (no one knows the date!), and things in the financial world change very quickly, but we brought all of these people here last week (the top 20 nations plus Turki and delegation from Iraq), and so if this gets pushed out 30 days, we will need to bring everyone back; again,

    Nova stated he does not know if we will see it Wed/Thurs, but in his opinion, if it’s pushed out another 30 days, all these leaders will need to come back again

    Frank ended the call with prayer, and Andy lifted the prayer with the shofar horn blast



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