October 15, 2013

final days of intel

EAGLE1 UPDATE, 10-15-2013



He has word from a gentleman who is a significant part of the IMF, who advised E1 their intention is to wrap the RV tonight into tomorrow morning. They want it live on bank screens on Thursday, but if not ready in time, will put it through Thursday night so it will show on Friday morning.

Tue-Wed-Thurs are days for int'l banking. None of this plays into the RV scenario. Because it's a global event that affects 198 countries, they will put this thru regardless of what day of the week it is. E1 is 70/30 for thus RV and 100% for Friday RV.

He has similar confirm from his UST contact who pretty much said verbatim what IMF contact said. If we see on Forex tonight, it will be on bank screens Thurs. Any time after 11 pm EST is the time to watch Forex for the RV to show up.

E1 believes they are making a supreme effort to get this done.

E1 asked if there was any connection with GCR and debt ceiling. Days ago they knew exactly what they were going to do, they were putting on a show (DC). Ignore all

Eagle 1:
He has word from a gentleman who is a significant part of the IMF, who advised E1 their intention is to wrap the RV tonight into tomorrow morning. They want it live on bank screens on Thursday, but if not ready in time, will put it through Thursday night so it will show on Friday morning.

Tue-we-thurs are days for int'l banking. None of this plays into the RV scenario. because it's a global event that affects 198 countries, they will put this thru regardless of what day of the week it is. E1 is 70/30 for thurs RV and 100% for Friday RV.

He has similar from his UST contact who pretty much much said verbatim what IMF contact said. If we see on Forex tonight, it will be on bank screens Thurs. Anytime after 11 pm est is the time to watch Forex for the RV to show up.

E1 believes they are making a supreme effort to get this done.

E1 asked if there was any connection with GCR and . Days ago they knew exactly what they were going to do, they were putting on a show (DC). Ignore all the news coming from DC, this GCR was not a DC driven event.

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Thoughts and Opinions in Dinarland Late Tuesday Night

10/15/2013


TNT:

[daz] ....We are all on a Bus.....we are riding through the countryside looking out the windows...the scenary is somewhat familiar and we try to determine our final destination by the passing landmarks. The Bus driver, we assume, is capable of getting us to our destination safely but he alone knows the route and ETA. As passengers we can only remain seated and calm and wait till the Bus stops. Meanwhile...we may as well enjoy the ride.

[penneypincher] ALREADY BLESSED got confirmation from my boots on the ground...that it is all over the papers that it is international.

[keiji] penneypincher what papers are those?

[jlw] penneypincher : Iraqi newspapers?

[RockingTheFreeWorld] penneypincher except in the us and all other western worlds lol

[penneypincher] He said just more confirmation it is coming... he doesnt do chats, forums,...He told us he would contact us as he heard it from over there....so call came today.
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(loechin] Just got a text from Iraq they are now saying their currency has just went international also saying it in Afganastan as well

[loechin] I'm still in Bolivia and Internet is bad

[wantingfreedom] More confirmation and More confirmation . . this is GREAT guys!!

may5star] I reported this earlier. Take it for what its worth. I took a $20 Bahamian Dollar I had from a recent cruise to WF. It was a simple transaction. The teller took the bill and compared it with a list from a WF book of approved currencies. He confirmed I was an acct holder and contacted the currency dept. He asked me if it was a buy back or exchange. I said exchange. He took my bill and placed it in an inner office enveloped and filled out a form. My rate was 1USD to 75 cent Bahamian Dollar. When I asked why such a low rate when it was just 1 to 1 in August? The lead teller approaches us and say "all currencies are going thru changes"... A little light of hope is NEVER a bad thing to share

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StraightTalkChat:

[MsM] If you want to achieve your dreams... you have to WAKE UP!

[August] I believe and feel that they truly are giving the best of what they are receiving from their sources. I also believe that some sources are intentionally adding things to the intel so as to not have the intel point back to them (giving misleading information). At this point we have to make a decision based on what we know thus far, who has given the best intel. I have my picks and I listen, read everything I can and they have been spot on as so many others have been so wrong. I have scratched others from my list. So at the end of the day if we are on a emotional roller coaster ride (which I can relate) it is truly by choice.

[cman8] August There is nothing you said that I disagree with, I am 100% on board with you on that. I have most that I have scratched off and a select few I read everything and look out for. I wouldn't necessarily say the emotional roller coaster is by choice, it's become apart of our lives and due to the anxiety and stress this has put on us. We are getting tired of it, it's like a movie with a bunch of plot twists and we don't know how it will end.

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Jester’s Place:

[ModelWoman] Jester Ok you asked for it LOL.....here's my question since I am so confused......If the goverment doesn't come to an agreement before Thursday and the US defaults.... is that what you are referring to as the "Easy Way" where the bad guys go and then the Rebirth The Republic Occurs and then the RV/Global Currency Reset takes place after that?

[Grunt0311] ModelWoman THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION... SEVERAL DIFFERENT PARTS TO IT...

[ModelWoman] Grunt0311 Not really just want to know if I am making sense of the "Easy Way"?

[Grunt0311] ModelWoman LET'S BREAK IT DOWN LOGICLY... FIRST WE HAVE THE US GOV SHUTDOWN: RAISE THE DEBT CEILING OR DEFAULT? IF WE RAISE THE DEBT CEILING, THE FED KEEPS PRINTING MONEY. IF WE DEFAULT, WE START TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR OUR DEBT. EITHER WAY, IT IS ALL FOR SHOW.

[[DiddyKong] ModelWoman here it is as simple as I can explain it: Easy way, let the debt ceiling not be raised and default on paying bills the natural way so things can progress for the better. Hard way, raise the debt ceiling and other forces will be forced to crash the US debt manipulation system (Lower credit rating, dumping of bonds, etc.)

[shark] Jester -Is everything going as plan?? will the usa default??

[Jester] shark WELL... DEPENDS ON WHO YOU ASK... I DO BELIEVE IT IS ALL BEING FED TO THEM...

Jester] shark DANG TWO QUESTIONS... DEFAULT IS NOT REALLY WHAT THAT IS ALL ABOUT... THERE ARE OPTIONS... UNFORTUNATELY THEY ARE MAKING YOU THINK THAT IS WHAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN IT REALLY WON'T...

[cchad3] Jester A couple of nights ago you made reference to a treaty that was signed, effective July 12, this year that would allow for the co existence of the FRN and the TRN for a period of six months. I mentioned this on another site earlier today, was just trying to be helpful, and was called out, they asked to see evidence of this treaty. I have looked and not been able to find any reference to it, is there anything out there that can be used to back that up?

[Jester] cchad3 SO... ASK THEM FOR PROOF THAT SAYS THE IRAQI DINAR WILL REVALUE.... LOL... SAME THING...

[citizensoldier] Fed takes in $7B USD everyday, but spends $10B each day, which could, should, would be enough for ANY responsible fiduciary to adjust spending. The UST owes $18B a month in interest payments. Any responsible fiduciary can cut enough spending to facilitate paying the interst on the current debt without going further into debt. It is amazing so many talking heads fail to grasp this concept, which is being dealt with daily by millions of thoughtful citizens.

[honeybelle] DiddyKong Jester so you think we will default?

[Jester] honeybelle WELL.... AS WE HAVE BEEN SAYING... DEFAULT IS NOT NECESSARILY A GIVEN... THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE.. THE FACT THEY SAY THAT IS TO SCARE YOU...

[honeybelle] Jester yes alot could like the good guys get this done if the bad guys did bad stuff arrest them… they have done worse ….imo just do it already

[honeybelle] What I don't understand is why the good people just don't arrest the bad ones and get this over with???

[Grunt0311] honeybelle BAD ONES TEND TO HAVE MONEY, AND THEREFORE PAY FOR SECURITY THAT MAY PREVENT A SIMPLE ARREST.

[Grunt0311] honeybelle HERE'S A GOOD EXAMPLE... A BAD GUY TRIED TO DO A DEAL WITH A GOOD GUY, AND THE GOOD GUY CAUGHT HIM. THE GOOD GUY WANTS TO HAVE THE BAD GUY ARRESTED, BUT THE BAD GUY TRIED TO HAVE THE GOOD GUY KILLED. SO, THE BAD GUY SITS THERE ON THE "LIST" UNTIL THE OPPORTUNITY TO ARREST HIM PRESENTS ITSELF.

[citizensoldier] "The great thieves lead away the little thief." - Diogenes Born: 412 BC Died: 323 BC Not much has changed in human bevavior in the that 2,300 years or so..

[KettleP] Well let us all pray that an agreement will be reached before tomorow night's dead line. I am afaid it will go past that point.

[DiddyKong] KettleP we dont want an agreement made

[Grunt0311] KettleP IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT GOES PAST THE DEADLINE OR NOT.

[moneydr] Grunt0311 why doesn't it matter?

[KettleP] Grunt0311 ok I dont understand Why.? Please fill me in.

[Grunt0311] KettleP IT IS ALL A SHOW. WHY DO YOU THINK NATIONAL PARKS ARE CLOSED? LOL

[Grunt0311] KettleP THE ENTIRE SHUTDOWN IS LAUGHABLE.

[moneydr] Grunt0311 show for what?

[Grunt0311] moneydr DEMS VS. GOP AND NOT HAVING ANYTHING BETTER TO DO... ALTHOUGH, I WILL SAY THAT THERE IS A SMALL GROUP OF POLITICIANS THAT ARE GENUINELY CONCERNED ABOUT OUR FUTURE.

[redhorse] DiddyKong no, we "want" an agreement!!

[DiddyKong] redhorse lol, we don't ….let the system default and dissolve naturally

[Constitution] i dont want an agreement i want to see the fed fall flat on its Face and like the titantic slowly sink into the abyss

Thoughts and Opinions from TNT Members Tues. Afternoon

10/15/2013


TNT:

DavidM: No matter what the hour, no matter what the cause, not matter what the darkness appears to bring .... we still MUST believe. You see, there's more to life than just what we can see....
We are almost there ... just BELIEVE!!!!!

[ALREADY BLESSED] ON THE PHONE WITH TONY....NO BLAST UNTIL SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT HAPPENS...WE ARE GATHERING INTEL ALL DAY EVERY DAY....SO JUST WAITING TO SEE WHAT COMES IN

Kate2973: Is it just me or has everything been eerily quiet this morning? Could this be the calm before the storm?

Isa52bc: I don't know, but here is my email from the Universe today!
The Universe If you go first and reach for the fruit; I'll shake the tree.
Do a little dance; I'll add some music.
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Move in the direction of your dreams, even though at first nothing seems to happen; I'll align the stars, butter your bread, connect the dots, trim the hedge, move some mountains, float the boat, and see you at the ball.Metaphorically. Except for seeing you at the ball..........If you go first,~ The Universe

Middledebo: I think there is probably not much to talk about now that this is totally tied to the debt ceiling negotiations until that is actually negotiated. Still a work in process last time I checked the news.

[rocknman] "Everything is changing. People are taking their comedians seriously and the politicians as a joke." —Will Rogers

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popeye: Randy Koonce's contact in the IMF, said to be looking for something on thursday into friday

[popeye] thats it .....I hope he is right this time

[wycoffjul] popeye Wow that's big for Randy to come out and say!

[TxIslandGirl] popeye That is good news coming from Randy K. Thanks!

[wycoffjul] TxIslandGirl I agree!! He usually doesn't let much unless he is really is sure of something

[popeye] well I think its good news too, and hopefully it will coincide with Tony intel this week!

[TxIslandGirl] wycoffjul his timline is always further out.

[funkitty] is it just me or has it been super quiet today? We are holding our collective breaths

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TrapDoor: Part of what is needed for the GCR is for the dollar to suddenly crash and use the GCR as a way to "save the day" so that the US economy AND the world are saved from a currency meltdown from the current world reserve currency (the USD).

The 15th is the next currency auction and if no one buys, or "they" buy only at a hugely reduced rate, we'll, there you go, the manufactured USD meltdown needed to "hide" the GCR in plain sight.

But, "Can this really happen?" you may ask. Well, it already started! The next currency auction for the USD is the 15th. Here we go people, this thing is right around the corner!

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSL6N0HZ1VS20131009?irpc=932

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/Davos2012/idUSBRE99B02720131012?irpc=932

Hiding this in plain sight and happening before our eyes. Good stuff!

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Dash RipRock: I like your line of thinking, however lots of us have long believed the auctions are fake and manually loaded. On one occasion they showed an auction with an outrageous amount being traded with 28 participating banks. At that time only 23 banks were allowed to participate. Glitch???

A short time later they went in and changed the numbers (to cover their butt) to reflect 18 participating banks. All I'm saying is don't use the auctions as any type of a barometer in this fiasco. But I do agree, until we reach the Currency Cliff, we won't see an RV.

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TrapDoor: I am completely with you on the ability to manipulate this. That is why it is so perfect to help set up what we need to help this "pass through to the light". …. IF it was absulutely a reflection of curernt world currencies and their relative desirability and stability as a reserve currency, then it would be harder to enable "them" to do what they need to do in playing with the USD. The can synthetically lower it without having to completely crash it.

This is just a tool to further help them hide this in plain sight. No?

I see the 15th as "the beginning of the end" of the dollar (partially manufactured) as the world reserve currency, then you roll in the budget and debt ceiling "crisis" as further damage to the economy/currency, and BOOM GOES THE DYNOMITE, something saves the day! Most people won't care what it is as long as it worked.

The beautiful thing about this is that there is no need to really go over the line to default as you can "frame" the panic up front by damaging the currency (USD) and "stop" it before it gets bad.

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Dash RipRock: Agreed. It's all about the 'show'. They need to show that it's broke. Because if it ain't broke, there's no reason to 'fix' it. That's why I said that I agreed with Trapdoors scenario, but I wouldn't base anything to support a theory based on what I believe are manually loaded, long time fake, made for tv auctions.

That's also why the previous two years (right around this same time) they came to agreements prior to the Fiscal Cliff/Debt Ceiling decisions and didn't go through with a shutdown. Because they weren't read to release this thing. So IMO this semi default shutdown made for tv movie is the best thing that ever could have happened. For us anyway.

I believe they already had a decision made, a solution in place long before they ever decided to shut the town down. Now all we need is to grab another bucket of popcorn, play a bit more of the waiting game and hope like heck they slide this RV in the side door.

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JjHall: why is a crash of the U$D required?

i m not seeing this as a required step

really makes no diff in overall plans if it crashes, stays same or increases....

please tell me how my thinking is wrong

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Trapdoor: First of all, this is my thinking, my opinion and my puzzle I'm putting together. Take it or leave it.

Even Tony is alluding to the fact that the USG wants to keep this as much on the down low as possible. Just look at the emergence of the NDAs. They have to have a reason to do the RV/GCR in order to hide it in plain sight. (see above post). They don't want to just do it and have all kinds of sudden wealth millionaires running around.

It could really get ugly. I know at least five people I am very close to that will never speak to me again when we RV.

It is sad, but they will take their frustration out on our relationship as friends. People in my profession do not like to be proven wrong and this would be the ultimate of wrongness. I was unable to "convince" them how real this is and they have dug into the Scam stories. One even keeps telling me, "That's not how currency works". Well, at least not the way it used to work. Only Jesus could make the blind see.

On the 17th, the US will have to pay a bunch of bonds, IN USD. If all of a sudden, the USD, based on the devaluation in the auction market (on the 15th), is paying 60% (or whatever % lower you choose) of that obligation to their creditors as a relative worth to the creditors own currency and agreements... NASA we have a problem. This will make a lot of banks and countries "unhappy" and "feel" cheated (remember, this is a show to an end).

Independent of the debt ceiling being raised/extended or not, this then creates a financial crisis that has to be addressed to keep all of our financial partners "happy". Remember, the US really is too big to fail, and if we do, we take EVERYONE down with us. In order to "fix" this, we need to be able to either increase the value of the dollar to where it was to pay off equal value of what we borrowed (which will not happen as they are intentionally lowering it in order to do the GCR/RV), or create an enormous amount of wealth in some fund that can suddenly cover and pay these debts (and much, much more).

Do we all remember just last week the changes made to the Government/USTs equity/currency/commodity funds? This is where the multi-trillions of Dinar are being held. BAM, do the GCR/RV and now, even at 3:1, the financial worries of the US, and everyone else, are fixed. A huge pot of non-appropriated funds sitting there for this and future administrations to spend. Mo Money, Mo Money, Mo Money (I used to LOVE In Living Color).

It would be easy to talk about the devalue in the auctions and the "need" to reset all world currencies at the same time and blur the line in this scenario. Once this is pushed out there framed like this, they go public with the rates and we get lost in the shuffle while the talking heads talk about how amazing the fix was. They don't even have to be specific about WHAT currencies fixed the problem, just that it was fixed "based on previous UST holdings".

I am sure that it is possible that the privileged people are cashing out, especially since they already have this mapped out and have to make it happen. The more that cash out ahead of time, the more locked in to coninuing down the path and that is GOOD for us. The more international deals brokered on this the better for us (remember France, a member of the Paris Club, announcing a few months ago that, "OOPS! We are not bankrupt after all. Ho Ho Ho, Pierre." This may not be exactly how it will play out, but watch the news and look for the good stuff coming our way! It is right there, hidden in front of our noses!

I honestly believe that we are ready and probably at the banks by Thursday or Friday of next week. There is just too much on the line to not do this now and I don't want to think of the ramifications if they don't finally pull the trigger on this. There really is a fianancial crisis forming as the USD fiat currency system's clock will or has run out (average life expectancy of a fiat currency is 27 years, few ever make it past 42 years and some have only lasted a month. Here is a good read.

http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2011/08/average-life-expectancy-for-fiat.html

). Now the question is, when did we go off the gold standard and into the current fiat system?

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/fdr-takes-united-states-off-gold-standard

from above link wrote:

The government held the $35 per ounce price until August 15, 1971, when President Richard Nixon announced that the United States would no longer convert dollars to gold at a fixed value, thus completely abandoning the gold standard. In 1974, President Gerald Ford signed legislation that permitted Americans again to own gold bullion.

Wow! 42 years!

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BlackBird136: Trapdoor

Awesome posts and great discussion and scenarios presented.

Very compelling and fits into the puzzle. Perhaps the final pieces.

Be blessed.

BB136

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ShawnW: I am of the mindset that we will go over the cliff ever so slightly, which gives the IMF an open door to step in and release this reset to the world. While that will not benefit us in the short term, I do think the USD has to be taken off its throne officially for this reset to happen. Only time will tell.....

To elaborate a bit more on my current theory

1. I expect the Gov to default on the 17th, officially and publicly damaging the global faith in the USD.

2. I expect China and the BRICS nations to next come out with very strong statements and actions of what they are planning to do very shortly after, even Thursday.

3. I then expect the IMF to step in as the saviour with a plan to get everyone back in "agreement" this will remove USD as the top dog and level the playing field somewhat, and include emerging economies as a larger part of the global economy. I would expect this to happen Friday through Sunday at some time.

4. This announcement would trigger the global reset, and included in it would be our glorious RV, but hidden in the mess of the rest of this.

now lets see if it holds any water lol

OKIEOILMAN CHAT, 10-15-2013, TUESDAY NIGHT

[..OkieOilMan] JUST A BRIEF FLY-BY. THERE IS MUCH MORE INVOLVED WITH THE VOTE ON THE C.R. IN D.C. THAN APPEARS SUPERFICIALLY.

THE R/V Timeliness (IS THAT A WORD?) IS CONTINGENT ON A SUCCESSFUL AGREEMENT BEING AGREED UPON.

LETS ALL PRAY THOSE IN THE SENATE AND HOUSE WILL REACH AN AGREEMENT BEFORE TOMORROW NIGHT'S DEADLINE---OR---WE WILL HAVE A DELAY.

IF THERE IS AN AGREEMENT THE R/V WILL CLOSELY FOLLOW (THE 800 NUMBERS BEING RELEASED) AND AT SUCH TIME THE BANK APPOINTMENTS WILL (BE) MADE. -----BLESSINGS GALORE

MNT GOAT UPDATE, 10-15-2013

Hi Everyone,

Last week the family and I went to the Oktoberfest in Munich. We had a wonderful time! As you may know transportation is very good in Germany and so we hopped on a train to the city. This revaluation reminds me of that train ride. We arrived at the station early so as not to miss the train. However in doing this we had to wait patiently with the anticipation for the train to arrive. It finally arrived on time as it always does. So I asked myself why did we arrive at the station so early?

Our Business of Today
This revaluation process for us is like my train ride to Munich last week. We were given the train schedule last April and anticipated the train to arrive on time. However it did not arrive. Since then again and again it was announced that the train would arrive and again we sat and waited in great anticipation. We knew, like I knew last week, that once I got on that train the next stop was going to be a wonderful time. But when will the train arrive? We still sit and wait. Today is Tuesday October 15th already and we were told our train would arrive for sure last Thursday October 10th. So what happened? Sorry this is going to be a long email once again.

We can all see that nothing in this process of the GCR is going as planned. These changes are not the IMF decisions but a matter of compromises on the part with the USA. So who are the players in this plan? Let’s look at who is involved in this event. Maybe we can then understand what is going on.

On one hand we have the government of Iraq. There were many obligations that they had to satisfy to even get to a level where they could revaluate their provisional currency and bring it back to an international status. They have now met all these requirements. There is nothing else for Iraq to do. In fact technically they have already had their RV in country and are now working in this manner. However they can not officially go international until the GCR is released. This is creating some difficulties for them. What do they now think of the USA? I have said in my past post that this would happen if the GCR was held up any longer.

Next there is the UN with the IMF in this case watching over the process and the gatekeepers of it. The IMF is also orchestrating this GCR as this is their master minded plan to save the world’s economies. This event will occur. Believe me when I say the worst global depression ever is just a matter of seconds away if you knew what was really going on in the larger scale. They wanted the rollout of the GCR to be completed long before now like last April. The next set of players are all the developed nations of the world and in particular the USA. This GCR plan is in conflict with the master plan for the Middle East (as planned by the USA) however we all know they blended the plans together to make the GCR work. A lot of compromises have already been made. This is our first delay in 2011.

A Little More History
I hope you do not mind that I have taken some time to give a short history of the players in this GCR in order for you to be able to see where we are today. Please be patient and read on as you will begin to see the light and it will all make sense as I describe how the players come into this drama. So let’s begin.

I do know for a fact that the IMF (part of the UN) is now looking at the USA as an obstacle in the process of the GCR. Yes, you heard it correctly. The USA is now a liability and it is felt in the upper circles of the IMF and was also discussed at the recent G20 summit in Washington DC last week behind closed doors that the USA is no longer going to be a leader in the global financial arena. This happened due to the lack of fiscal responsibility as a nation. We have to ask ourselves this – Was the USA ever a fiscal responsible nation? Once it decided to get off the gold standard it would be just a matter of time before the inevitable happened. What are they planning to do about it now?

As history is written there were many pros and cons in going strictly to a gold backed standard for currencies. If you think about it anything can really back a currency if there is value to it. All you need is someone (the holder of the note) to believe in the certificate. It is all about perception. So why in the past was gold used as a backing for currencies? Why do some still insist on the strict use of gold.. The answer to this question is simple. It is all about control. Take a scarce resource, maintain control over it and you maintain the wealthy you need. The more scarce the more value. With this wealth you maintain power through the ability to buy armies. Who do you control? You control your citizens and your neighboring countries. The more control the more power. Power soon extends beyond your borders and drives yet more riches from conquests.

So to make a long story short in today's world the IMF has decided to no longer strictly use the “gold” standard as the measure of wealth or use fiat currency (not backed by anything, just a speculative currency). Now precious metals and other assets will be used for this purpose. If we look at what the IMF is now doing in a logical sense, with the GCR and the Basel III compliance, we can see that this is needed. After all in the not so distant past if you had 2 dairy cows and someone gave you an IOU for them (which might have valued at a perceived value of an ounce of gold), but since you do not have the wealth to possess the gold you may never see the gold but eventually trade this same IOU for 10 sacks of grain because 10 sacks of grain would be worth the same amount of a perceived ounce of gold or the 2 dairy cows. Understand?

Later as society progressed some did possess gold but rather than farmer Joe giving farmer Jim an ounce of gold for the 2 cows and then farmer Jim turning around and handing the ounce of gold right back to farmer Joe for the 10 sacks of grain an IOU system was developed and would be much more efficient and easy to carry around. This then evolved to a paper currency. If a country were to stay strictly at using gold for payment of this transaction (i.e gold coins for currency), still only one ounce of gold would be needed to back my example. But two transactions were made. How could this be? Only one ounce of gold needed? Can you see how less gold would be needed, if there was no time delay? Also without the gold for the transaction in this example, the transaction may have never happened since the farmers in this case are poor and do not possess any gold. Commerce would stop and society in this village or between villages would not flourish. Many items not produced in one village could not be obtained from another village. The quality of life would be lowered.

So a standard measure for trade must be established. To standardize and maintain this sense of value, the government thus steps in. They would regulate and standardize the IOUs process by printing money in it’s place. If they back this printed money with gold, then they standardize the measurement and everyone then knows that the 2 cows are worth two $100 bills or an once of gold or the 10 sacks of grain are worth two $100 bills or an ounce of gold. Money then flows freely and trade and commerce can then bring the wealth to the villages. People then become affluent and live in abundance. But in this example you will need 2 ounces of gold. One for each $100 bill.

Can you understand now how everything got messed up once the USA decided to go off the gold standard and began printing money for IOU, but did not have anything to back the standardization of the value of the notes. Let's look at what really happened and why the USA got off the gold standard.

First let me say that if you were living back in those times, when the USA decided to go off the gold standard, you might not have thought this was such a bad idea. Since in the short term this process was very good for the USA and the entire world since it allowed for a large influx of the US dollar currency in to the markets. The USA could now print money at will instead of first gaining the wealth in gold to back it. They did this to create a huge demand for the US dollar and to allow the banks to loan out money to the citizens and to the government. This became a way to finance wars and to finance society. If you go back and study how president FDR had to finance the WWII effort you would better understand. This has all changed.

So if you do not have gold backing you currency you can literally print as much as you like. Oh…an opportunity for corruption! You can then spend as much as you like. Oh…yet another opportunity for corruption! Too much in circulation causes inflation (higher prices). You set up regulators (Federal Reserve) to keep tabs on it so the supply of money stays just where you need it to keep everything in a state of relative stability. Prices go up but the Feds keep it under control. Printed currency then can take on the same levels of confidence the gold once had. Can it? Does it really? No- not really!

As I said above this wealth brings power and power brings control. Once you have this control you can do yet more of what you want to do regardless of the international laws. You can create and afford war to sustain yet more control, also the banks can loan out yet more money to create an affluent society and all the wonderful concepts like private home ownership, two cars in every garage, vacations, college loans, etc. Money flows and life is good. But for how long?

In the past the rest of the world looked at the USA and would marvel at what they saw. What they saw were large grocery stores, countless sky scraper buildings, jobs, a booming economy, paved roads, bridges and opulence. Life seemed much better in the USA than in their country. But what they did not see was the eventual hidden monster lurking behind the curtain. Eventually this has to catch up since how much money could the government borrow and pay interest on before the interest on the debt far out weighted the total revenues of the country. Soon there is no more money from revenues to fund items for society’s needs. Like it or not the USA is a socialistic capitalistic society since the tax revenue is supposed to be redistributed by the government for the benefit of society as a whole. The voting process decides who get paid what and what programs are put in place. Is this system working now in the USA? Today what is now really happening to the revenues of the UST? Why is the system broken?

On one hand the politicians know it’s show time. They know they cannot keep business as usual since all the revenues will surely be going towards the interest on the national debt very shortly. So how does the USA then pay it’s other bills? This is the real debate going on now in Washington right now. It is time to decide how this is going to be managed before it's too late.

We all know that the USA possesses large amounts of Iraq dinar as reserve currency. We all heard recently that Jack Lewis proposed using some of these reserves to pay off the US debt. But this was to help assist in paying off the bills not the national debt. If this is true then how was this done without an RV? Oh wait…did the RV already happen?

Last Wednesday there was a negotiated extension of the debt ceiling until mid November 2013. This was to give more time to review ways to reduce gov’t spending and to negotiate and repeal parts of the Affordable HealthCare bill. Last weekend another agreement was discussed and is on the table for voting in today’s session. This agreement will give the government deficit spending extension until early 2014. There is political leverage being used by both parties: (1) is the holding up of the GCR by one party (the current democratic administration) and (2) the hold up of the funding for the Affordable HealthCare bill (the Republican held seats in Congress). The Democrats or Republicans both don’t really care if the GCR ever happens.

In the meantime prior to early 2014, the GCR must take place and lay the groundwork for the eventual paying off the US national debt. The questions now to be asked are how much of the debt will they pay off, and when will this process begin? This is the timing for our GCR. I believe this must occur very shortly if not this week. Watch for an agreement in your government early this week. This will be the first sign of implementation of this process. This was planned to begin last week. I also want to state that both party members (bankers and lawyers) have had it way too good for too long and do not want to give it all up. Give what up …you might ask? Give up the trillions of US dollars being taken from the American people in the largest scam in history. They do it legally by forcing the constant debt on the American people in the name of progress. But in reality look at the results and see where the USA now is. Are we now under such prosperous times in USA? See what they have done to destroy the USA as part of this scheme. This was all done for short term greed. I have recommended some reading lists in one of my recent emails and I hope all have had the opportunity to do some reading.

Summary
So in ending this email let me ask you just one more question. If you had a gravy train and you legally maneuvered yourself into a position of making billions of dollars each and every month would you want to give it all up for the sake of making maybe a few more billion on a one time shot of a revaluation of a currency? Of course not!

People keep asking this same question on the intel calls and I also get lots of emails on this topic too. It’s as if you think these politicians holding up this GCR have so much at stake to lose in lost money from the revaluation if it does not happen. They do not ! Don’t be so naive. Believe me they have far much more to lose from doing it than to gain from doing it. I hope you now understand. This is the why they hold it up. This GCR is the beginning of the eventual end of their scamming the American people since the inception of the Federal Reserve. Just have patience. Eventually, if nothing else, the GCR will be forced out and it will occur. That time is coming near. As I have said above the IMF are the real gatekeepers of this process. They have been very patient with the USA but this is about to end.

Hopes this helps everyone.

Peace and Luv to ya,
mnt goat

10-15-2013 Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3 IT IS COMING, I JUST WISH IT WAS HERE FOR ALL OF US TODAY. ALL INTEL I AM RECIEVING STILL SAYING ANYTIME. IT APPEARS ALL INDICATIONS IT IS POSSIBLE NOW FOR IT TO HAPPEN AT ANY TIME. I THOUGHT IT VERY INTERESTIING YESTERDAY THAT LAST WEEK ON MONDAY o [Obama] REFUSED TO MEET WITH MALIKI AND YET YESTERDAY THEY ANNOUNCE THAT o INVITED MALIKI TO BE HERE ON THE 25TH.... VERY VERY INTERESTING. JUST AFTER THE DEADLINE FOR THE CONGRESS TO SETTLE THINGS AND PAY THE BILLS AND RAISE THE DEBT CIELING. POPPY3

10-15-2013 Newshound Guru Mailman17 I SUGGEST EVERYONE READ THE ECONOMIC REFORM BILL THAT PARLIMENT PASSED. IMVHO, THIS IS WHAT THE IMF HAS BEEN WAITING FOR FOR IRAQ TO MOVE TO ART 8...AND IT CLEARLY STATES IRAQ IS NOW READY TO MOVE TO A FREE MARKET ECONOMY. HELL, IT EVEN MENTIONS UNIONS...JIMMY HOFFA WOULD BE PROUD..LOL IRAQ IS READY TO MOVE TO A TRADEABLE CURRENCY AND ENTER THE FREE MARKET. COULD THIS HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH OUR OWN DEBT CEILING DEBACLE? WHOS KNOWS...JUST PAY ME...

10-15-2013 Newshound Guru Millionday shabibi has been found to be stating often lately that cbi needs to release the rate. [he works for the IMF on this project.] he has always remained a huge part of this plan with iraq -- when he was in switzerland he was still working with cbi, imo. So, they are ready at anytime at all -- they need to move forward...with a plan of this size -- it can happen at any day -- it is not a plan that requires it to be on the market change days as in the un operational or any other days --- it is so huge that it can be minimized by the day it happens. love the news and we are so very close to some changes...

10-15-2013 Intel Guru Bluwolf Looks like the playbook will be acted out totally as plan within the next couple of days justifying the imminent INTERNATIONAL RELEASE as expected and spoken of, the world is reacting and it has made its move and the pressure is on the steps of Washington. All world banks are now on the highest of alerts and will react to this rv issue with a flip of a coin. How
long till this melodrama ends? IMO it will just be a couple days away. And the rates... well , [they] are MARVELOUS, STRICTLY MARVELOUS just like Billy Crystal would say.

10-15-2013 Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3 IT IS COMING, I JUST WISH IT WAS HERE FOR ALL OF US TODAY. ALL INTEL I AM RECIEVING STILL SAYING ANYTIME. IT APPEARS ALL INDICATIONS IT IS POSSIBLE NOW FOR IT TO HAPPEN AT ANY TIME. I THOUGHT IT VERY INTERESTIING YESTERDAY THAT LAST WEEK ON MONDAY o [Obama] REFUSED TO MEET WITH MALIKI AND YET YESTERDAY THEY ANNOUNCE THAT o INVITED MALIKI TO BE HERE ON THE 25TH.... VERY VERY INTERESTING. JUST AFTER THE DEADLINE FOR THE CONGRESS TO SETTLE THINGS AND PAY THE BILLS AND RAISE THE DEBT CIELING. POPPY3

10-15-2013 Newshound Guru Mailman17 I SUGGEST EVERYONE READ THE ECONOMIC REFORM BILL THAT PARLIMENT PASSED. IMVHO, THIS IS WHAT THE IMF HAS BEEN WAITING FOR FOR IRAQ TO MOVE TO ART 8...AND IT CLEARLY STATES IRAQ IS NOW READY TO MOVE TO A FREE MARKET ECONOMY. HELL, IT EVEN MENTIONS UNIONS...JIMMY HOFFA WOULD BE PROUD..LOL IRAQ IS READY TO MOVE TO A TRADEABLE CURRENCY AND ENTER THE FREE MARKET. COULD THIS HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH OUR OWN DEBT CEILING DEBACLE? WHOS KNOWS...JUST PAY ME...

10-15-2013 Newshound Guru Millionday shabibi has been found to be stating often lately that cbi needs to release the rate. [he works for the IMF on this project.] he has always remained a huge part of this plan with iraq -- when he was in switzerland he was still working with cbi, imo. So, they are ready at anytime at all -- they need to move forward...with a plan of this size -- it can happen at any day -- it is not a plan that requires it to be on the market change days as in the un operational or any other days --- it is so huge that it can be minimized by the day it happens. love the news and we are so very close to some changes...

10-15-2013 Intel Guru Bluwolf Looks like the playbook will be acted out totally as plan within the next couple of days justifying the imminent INTERNATIONAL RELEASE as expected and spoken of, the world is reacting and it has made its move and the pressure is on the steps of Washington. All world banks are now on the highest of alerts and will react to this rv issue with a flip of a coin. How
long till this melodrama ends? IMO it will just be a couple days away. And the rates... well , [they] are MARVELOUS, STRICTLY MARVELOUS just like Billy Crystal would say.

Tuesday Late Morning Dinar Chatter

10/15/2013


TNT:

[2sirden] The Only Thing Predictable about the RV is that it is Unpredictable

[ALREADY BLESSED] I am absolutely magnificent and getting better...thanks for asking!

[ALREADY BLESSED] Very hopeful for today!

[cas] Awesome!!

[blessed1$] (hi) GM IQN Family...Don't know how comforting this may be but when I was prego w/my last child I asked my 10 yo son when she would be born March or April (due date) he said March. I asked for a date & he said the 12th and she was born 10:30pm on the 12th of March. He wants to give ($)gifts to 3 friends & I asked when & he said Saturday. He is 26 now God used him before let's hope he uses him again
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[redhead1] I have heard this morning from several sources that the brokers who left Reno last Friday are returning this morning in hopes of doing private placements - at this point they do not have anyone who has been paid

[RedRock] I received and email just now from a contact who invested with me more 10 years ago..

[RedRock] his mesage is : Without giving details, I can tell you that WF big shots who've been prepping Florida branches for this are "100% sure" RV Thursday.

[goldstandard] Time to take an Advil :} Boehner says the country will not default, but I think back to what Churchill once said. "Americans will always do the right thing, after they have exhausted every other option. Let's hope calmer minds prevail in D.C. and this gets done before the clock runs out.

[kath] Hey everyone! Is what I am hearing from Eagle One that CL has given the RV to someone else already?

[bills9898] kath On his call last night he stated that the US has a date to get this done by and if the US does not get it done that she is going to have Europe do it

[kord] bills9898 Okie said that is not true...someone asked that question yesterday in a Q&A

[bills9898] kord At this point I am not sure who is right and who is wrong

[Echo4Sierra] Well if the IMF does give the rv to Europe it is truly gonna suck. But we will have to be sure a remember how our government screwed us. On election day

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MIG:

[Sparkles] The cat in the hat on the government:

I do not like this uncle sam, i do not like his health care scam.

I do not like these dirty crooks, or how they lie and cook the books!!

I do not like when congress steals,, i do not like their secret deals.

I do not like this speaker man, i do not like this, “yes we can”!!

I do not like this spending spree, i’m smart, i know that nothing’s free.

I do not like their smug replies, when i complain about their lies.

I do not like this kind of hope, i do not like it, nope, nope, nope!!

[.BJ] Sparkles gm and that's how I feel too !!!!!

[Sparkles] .BJ G morning, I cant take credit for it. It is from a girl in a skype room

[.BJ] Sparkles well its still good

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KTFA:

agold » October 15th, 2013, .

Frank, a question I had from last night, How could China go bankrupt? This morning I found a good answer.

WASHINGTON – Here’s a shocker.

China is going broke faster than the U.S., according to economic planner Kirk Elliott

China’s debt is about $36 trillion yuan (or $5.68 trillion USD). This number is astronomical considering that it is just a little more than one-third of the U.S. total debt, but the difference between the U.S. and China is that the U.S. national income per capita is $47,140, whereas China’s national income per capita is $4,260 – not even one-tenth of the U.S. amount. To be on par with the U.S., China’s total debt should be around $1.5 trillion USD, but it is three times that! Considering that the U.S. has an unsustainable debt position, China’s is ridiculously out of control and puts that country in extreme danger of a financial collapse of epic proportions.

China’s officially published interest rate of 6.2 percent is fabricated. In reality China’s inflation is 16 percent. This is eerily similar to the United States as well. The U.S. official inflation of around 3 percent is nowhere close to unofficial inflation estimates of 10-13 percent. What does this mean for China? This means that cost of living, wages and cost of goods sold in China will have to rise, and instead of exporting deflation, China will be exporting higher priced goods, thus affecting the rest of the world that purchases its goods. The world is on the verge of an inflationary cycle like we have never seen. Additionally, central banks around the globe are printing money on a massive scale to try to stimulate liquidity and spending (this is the definition of inflation!). Add to this a rising price structure in China, the major exporter to the world, and we could be preparing for a global hyperinflation.

Excess capacity in the economy and private consumption is only 30 percent of economic activity. Of course this is the case, as China’s population is extremely poor and China is an exporting nation. The vast majority of its goods should not be private consumption. But, what the excess capacity indicates is that there is a global economic slowdown. Since China’s growth is dependent on the rest of the world purchasing its goods, a global recession does not bode well for China’s economic future.

China’s officially published GDP growth of 9 percent is fabricated. The real number is a negative 10 percent! China’s robust GDP has always been a pipe dream, as the country has been building infrastructure (railroads, highways and real estate development – including ghost cities). Since personal spending is only 30 percent of China’s GDP, roughly 70 percent of China’s GDP can be attributed to this massive build-up. It will dry up, as has already started. The regime is about to be exposed, as people are starting to wake up to the fact that the “emperor has no clothes.”

China’s taxes are too high. Taxes on Chinese businesses – indirect and direct – are 70 percent of earnings. Individual tax rates are 81.6 percent. There is no way China can remain strong with these high taxes. We thought our taxes were high – because they are! But we are like schoolboys compared to China. It is the big boy on the taxation block. It’s just economics 101 – a country cannot remain strong or viable with tax rates this high. The population will ultimately revolt. I really believe China is ripe for revolution given these numbers; it’s just a matter of time. Sadly, for the Chinese citizens, their strong-arm government will not look kindly on any kind of political or social opposition.

Elliott concludes: “There is an economic tsunami about to engulf China, and because of the size of China’s economy and its manufacturing might, the impact of the tsunami will be felt far and wide. The United States will feel it in the form of inflationary pressures that we can’t afford right now. Periphery countries to China may feel its military might or cower to political pressure as governments that run out of money start to do irrational things (look at the United States, or Greece, or the European Union).”

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2011/11/372457/#JEghQyxvI87ZwAqv.99

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Frank26: I LOVE when Family does ............. Homework!!!

KTFA, Frank.

STRYKER INTERVIEWS BLUESTAR - from Friday

10/15/2013


STRYKER INTERVIEWS BLUESTAR

WebTV 10/11/2013

A Special Unannounced Broadcast for On Demand

Stryker's guest today is Bluestar

Bluestar has been in the DC area for 31 years and has
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He has worked on 6 presidential campaigns for ALL parties.

He also has worked for a US Senator, US Congressman and at C-Span.

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